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karmalady Thu 08-May-25 17:22:03

Who will he be?

keepingquiet Thu 08-May-25 19:44:29

As a Catholic keenly watching the proceedings my first reaction was, 'Oh no- he's American...' closely followed by 'Oh yes, he's Pope Leo!'

Then I do a quick Wikipedia (how fast were they working??) to find out he lived in Peru most of his life and loves Marmalade sandwiches (joke there!). His father was French, his mother Italian so he speaks lots of languages and was born in Chicago.

He has rebuked JD Vance ( heaven really must help him with Trump!) and so his reference to social justice (the last Pope Leo supported the working man and unions as opposed to the bosses) and also to synodality (not popular with conservative Catholics) puts him firmly in my approval ratings.

I love that the media got it wrong and many Americans won't even know who he is, but I suspect he was a real front runner all along because he was chosen so quickly.

I hope he will be a true internationalist, a builder of bridges as he says but I am waiting for the first fall out to do with his being a moderate, so will please no one who likes to judge people by these criteria.

I liked that he seemed quite nervous but has a kind face and is a succeeder to Francis and Saint Peter.

God bless Pope Leo XIV.

Grandma70s Thu 08-May-25 19:36:43

It’s disconcerting that he has called himself after my grandson.

CariadAgain Thu 08-May-25 19:36:29

Just had a quick check - and lots of Mumsnetters are very confused - and calling him American (presumably on the grounds he was born in America). Come in Joanna Lumley - apparently you must be Indian, rather than English, because you were born in India..........

Wyllow3 Thu 08-May-25 19:34:25

Confirmed in Irish Press article -

"Is your conscience not disturbed? How can you stay quiet?'" a post the new pope retweeted reads.

It calls out the Trump administration's mass deportation effort, which has sent hundreds of migrants to a maximum-security prison in El Salvador rife with human rights abuses

Wyllow3 Thu 08-May-25 19:32:48

Bixiboo

Apparently he criticised JD Vance a couple of weeks ago so he should be interesting to watch.

Apparently also on Trump and MAGA out in the press - waiting for verification.

CariadAgain Thu 08-May-25 19:29:31

RosieandherMaw

karmalady

Robert Prevost!

First ever from America

BORN in Chicago to a French father and Italian mother - DT would probably have sent them.bavk.
Also naturalised citizen of Peru where he has apparently spent much of his life.
Trust he can put DT and Vance in their place.

I was getting confused - thinking "But no American was standing for that afaik". That explains it - he's a half French/half Italian pope.

MayBee70 Thu 08-May-25 19:26:38

Amazon have really struck lucky timewise with that one!

Doodledog Thu 08-May-25 19:23:36

On the offchance that anyone doesn't already know - Conclave is now free to view for subscribers on Prime. I plan to watch it this evening.

Bixiboo Thu 08-May-25 19:20:50

Apparently he criticised JD Vance a couple of weeks ago so he should be interesting to watch.

RosieandherMaw Thu 08-May-25 19:16:20

We’ve many of us seen The Two Popes, and I think he is more likely to be having a nice cup of tea and a hobnob- maybe even a chocolate on
She has read the book !
I too have read Robert Harris's book (years before it became a film) and seen the play The Pope which the Two Popes film is based on.

karmalady Thu 08-May-25 19:16:14

RosieandherMaw

karmalady

Robert Prevost!

First ever from America

BORN in Chicago to a French father and Italian mother - DT would probably have sent them.bavk.
Also naturalised citizen of Peru where he has apparently spent much of his life.
Trust he can put DT and Vance in their place.

I hope so

ferry23 Thu 08-May-25 19:11:51

I hope this is a good choice for our GN Catholics. It seems he is in the mould of his predecessor although perhaps a little more conservative in some ways.

I enjoyed watching the pomp and ceremony and the joyful atmosphere. I must say though, the Swiss Guard could learn a thing or two from our military.

RosieandherMaw Thu 08-May-25 19:10:26

karmalady

Robert Prevost!

First ever from America

BORN in Chicago to a French father and Italian mother - DT would probably have sent them.bavk.
Also naturalised citizen of Peru where he has apparently spent much of his life.
Trust he can put DT and Vance in their place.

ferry23 Thu 08-May-25 19:06:19

RosieandherMaw

As you were -
More likely a Garibaldi as they're in Rome.

gringringrin

MayBee70 Thu 08-May-25 19:02:11

Although not religious I love churches and the pomp and ceremony of the high church. Can’t have too much incense or too many candles for me.

fancythat Thu 08-May-25 18:58:47

I am not a Catholic.
I liked the two birds on the roof by the smoke. And a baby one.
Hopefully a good sign.

RosieandherMaw Thu 08-May-25 18:55:43

As you were -
More likely a Garibaldi as they're in Rome.

Wyllow3 Thu 08-May-25 18:51:50

brief info

"Overall, he's considered a centrist, but on many social issues he's seen as progressive, embracing marginalized groups like Francis, who championed migrants and the poor. But Prevost opposes ordaining women as deacons, for instance, so he's seen as conservative on church doctrine"

Hmmpf.

Wyllow3 Thu 08-May-25 18:48:48

From what I've heard he is in the tradition of the previous Pope, who was, I believe, fairly progressive. I hope he can rein in DT a bit

Hoping on both counts, I expect more information will come along.

dragonfly46 Thu 08-May-25 18:41:39

RosieandherMaw

^He will be in the Room of Tears now. Emotional. Praying^.
Trying on one set (out of three set aside) of papal robes and selecting one box containing new shoes out of the half dozen sizes awaiting the wearer

With all respect- how do you know?

. We’ve many of us seen The Two Popes, and I think he is more likely to be having a nice cup of tea and a hobnob- maybe even a chocolate one. .

She has read the book!

MayBee70 Thu 08-May-25 18:38:57

Is it disrespectful to say I kept thinking of Paddington when he mentioned Peru?

Grannmarie Thu 08-May-25 18:33:26

I remember being amongst crowds like that in St Peter's Square, for the canonisations of Popes John PaulII and John XXIII, in April 2014.

It was absolutely incredible to see the two popes, Benedict and Francis, together for the special occasion. Francis welcomed Benedict with a great big hug. I hope I never forget it.

God bless and protect Pope Leo XIV.

karmalady Thu 08-May-25 18:32:56

a peacemaker, welcoming everyone

Grammaretto Thu 08-May-25 18:32:14

Mollygo & Grannygravy
I Hope not.
An antidote to DT.

Doodledog Thu 08-May-25 18:31:11

Cross post, MayBee grin