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Is intolerance getting worse on GN?

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kittylester Sun 29-Jun-25 18:35:51

I am horrified to have been told, in the last couple of days, that Rod Stewart's music should not be listened to because he supports reform and to stop watching Eastenders and read a library book.

Well, I watched Rod Stewart and am still an SDP supporter - if they only still existed!

And, the library in our village is a very successfully run community library which i helped transition from Council control -between watching episodes of Eastenders.

For goodness sake - get a grip some of you!

Pantglas2 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:29:41

“It is a bit like one of my 'trigger' phrases, which is 'Oh, I don't have time for that' said about something someone doesn't want to do. Extra points go to those who suggest I do it for them” Doodledog

That last sentence had me laughing as on Sunday I was inundated with folks wanting my old matching microwave, toaster and bread bin. All, apart from one, wanted me to deliver…these were items were free by the way but collection necessary! Some people eh?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:31:36

Doodledog

*Why, any particular reason I wonder?*
It reminds me of drunken karaoke singers grin.

Oh dear, my one and only attempt at Karaoke with a very dear friend - I was six months pregnant, totally sober (she wasn’t) and we sang Like a Virgin by Madonna 🤷‍♀️

MaizieD Tue 01-Jul-25 11:42:46

Many thanks for all the superscript 'o' instructions. flowers

But I'm on a laptop ATM because I prefer typing with a proper keyboard (I make far more mistakes on my Ipad) grin

Perhaps I should ask Mr Google

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 11:48:46

MaizieD have a play with your 0 key, hopefully it will have a similar solution.

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 11:51:46

Doodledog

*Why, any particular reason I wonder?*
It reminds me of drunken karaoke singers grin.

Well, he said it was the only track he ever recorded without having a drink beforehand 😁

Perhaps he should have had a tot of Pusser's rum first!

Claremont Tue 01-Jul-25 12:00:04

merlotgran

MayBee70

I think people are being unfair to gransnet HQ. I honestly don’t think that they ban people because of reported grievances, either personal or political but because of an overview of an individuals posts over a long period of time that they feel put the forum into disrepute.

But that brings us back to the ‘who is right?’ argument.

FGT was a supporter of Reform and Donald Trump. I gather most of us are not.

Does that make her disreputable?

Of course not, per se. No-one has coe back about clarification of the post which caused a ban. Normally, a post is given a warning. So it must have been pretty serious. And probaby nothing to do with her political orientation as such- but must have contained something quite serious, perhaps an obviously racist comment linked to poltcal views.

This comment by woodenspoon ''Personally, I think it’s always the same few who do this. If you disagree with their leftie dogma they press that report button. It gives them power you see, they crave it. Sad in my opinion. '', sets a very negative tone. As many of us who are to the left of centre, which does not make us 'leftie' have experienced exactly the opposite.

Claremont Tue 01-Jul-25 12:00:59

There seems to be another new 'technique' which is ostracisation. Quite obvious.

lafergar Tue 01-Jul-25 12:04:13

Tonight’s The Night is grim though

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

kittylester Tue 01-Jul-25 12:04:36

Best not ask Allira blush

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 12:12:53

kittylester

Best not ask Allira blush

Ask me what?

¿Qué? I know nothing!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 12:28:24

lafergar

*Tonight’s The Night is grim though*

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Tonight’s the Night is rather innocent compared to the rappers and drill artists lyrics of today, both female and male.

Beechnut Tue 01-Jul-25 12:33:18

0°0° my schooling for today, thanks GrannyGravy

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 12:37:37

lafergar

*Tonight’s The Night is grim though*

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Yes, but if Rod had stayed there and you had too, he'd still be there!

As it is, we didn't hear much about him, until Glastonbury.

I must admit to never really listening to the words of many songs.

Galaxy Tue 01-Jul-25 12:40:35

A lot of entertainment from even 10 - 20 years ago can seem very odd when viewed through today's lens. There are many songs which have very sexist/creepy lyrics (The Police spring to mind) . But even if you watch classic corrie or emmerdale, there are some really unpleasant storylines around relationships between much older men and teenage girls which wouldn't be written today.

kittylester Tue 01-Jul-25 12:43:03

Honestly, they are pop songs!

Allira what I'm reading? I missed a command, sorry. Are you the grammar police? 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 12:43:36

Galaxy

A lot of entertainment from even 10 - 20 years ago can seem very odd when viewed through today's lens. There are many songs which have very sexist/creepy lyrics (The Police spring to mind) . But even if you watch classic corrie or emmerdale, there are some really unpleasant storylines around relationships between much older men and teenage girls which wouldn't be written today.

Peggy's one-time love interest in Eastenders was 10 years younger than her.

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 12:44:42

kittylester

Honestly, they are pop songs!

Allira what I'm reading? I missed a command, sorry. Are you the grammar police? 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

😁

I'm getting all confused now!

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 12:45:34

GrannyGravy13

lafergar

Tonight’s The Night is grim though

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Tonight’s the Night is rather innocent compared to the rappers and drill artists lyrics of today, both female and male.

The creepiest song is Police and Every Breath You Take
Eeurgh!

kittylester Tue 01-Jul-25 12:45:43

For the avoidance of doubt- I hope allira knows I'm joking!! I'm sure she does but......

Allira Tue 01-Jul-25 12:46:55

Phew, what a relief!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Jul-25 12:50:55

Allira Every Breath is definitely creepy.

I remember the furore last Christmas about Baby it’s Cold Outside.

Wyllow3 Tue 01-Jul-25 12:56:02

LizzieDrip

Nevertheless Wyllow the next lines are:

“But that don’t worry me none,
In my eyes, you’re everything”

🤣🤣🤣

Indeed, what a winger. Poor little boy led astray by Older Woman (needy, yes, but fgs) she took him away from school

(I suspect it happened to him so he's having a good moan at her expense very publicly. Of course he could claim "it happened to a friend" hmm

Wyllow3 Tue 01-Jul-25 12:57:34

Doodledog

Maggie May was a Liverpool prostitute who features in other songs. She steals a sailor’s money in some and gets him transported to Botany Bay in others.

Tonight’s The Night is grim though.

Ah, that answers it, thank you.

kittylester Tue 01-Jul-25 13:04:57

I'm giving up mow - command should have been comma- beeping auto whatsits!

Wyllow3 Tue 01-Jul-25 13:23:03

lafergar

*Tonight’s The Night is grim though*

Urgh, really creepy.

Rod was part of the sound track to my youth. I wished he'd stayed there. I wish I could go back to those days and unknow a lot of what I know now.

Blimey, it's creepy. And too close to home, I was divorced from a man who was coercively abusing me, police and all: this says it all, really, how men like him relate to women.

"Come on angel my hearts on fire

Don't deny your man's desire

You'd be a fool to stop this tide

Spread your wings

^ and let me come inside^,

'cause
....
Tonight's the night
It's gonna be alright
'Cause I love you girl
Ain't nobody gonna stop us now
^Don't say a word my virgin child
Just let your inhibitions run wild
The secret is about to unfold
Upstairs before the night's too old^

all there, isnt it.

(yes, I have recovered, 3 years on, living happily alone)

so I guess you might say I'm not a fan.

and to those that say, what's a song got to do with politics?

My answer is "the personal IS political" - otherwise we wouldn't have political threads on abuse of women and children