Is intolerance getting worse on GN?

Anyway, not sure what this has to do with Is intolerance getting worse on GN?!!

Yes, we've lived in mixed areas in London and found that some people (mainly those from India and Ugandan Asians) wished to integrate, they were enterprising and ambitious, others stuck to their areas and did not. People from Pakistan tended to stick to their own areas and did not integrate even though they worked with others of different nationalities.
Strangely enough, the Indians and Ugandan Asians did not get on. Different religions perhaps? Different class? I never asked.

Oh dear Primrose, it just goes on and on doesn't it?

I have lived in Leicester, in Narborough Road. Coming from a completely " white " rural place, it took a bit of adjustment.

Then I wondered....how? and why?

Perhaps you and your brother would care to think about that.

Claremont

kittylester

I live near Leicester and we are friends with people of all nationalities but there are large areas near the city where no integration is apparent and there are regular fights between different nationalities

And, I am sometimes shocked to see small children translating for their youngish parents.

Very common in Dordogneshire and parts of Spain.

In my experience, this never happened in Leicester but often in Loughborough (very poor Bengali families from Silhet).

My BIL who lives 5 mins from Loughborough just left my house an hour ago! Pity he left as he would have had a lot to say about this.

He was saying he really hates living there now as he is Leicester born and bred and feels he is an outsider in both Leicester and Loughborough. He says he might as well live in Pakistan. His grandchildren are just a few of the White British kids in their school. All the shops are geared up for Asians. There are parts of Leicester he will no longer go to.

He has lived in his house for 40 years and in that time the sense of community has diminished as more locals move away and Asians move into his neighbourhood.

Surely fights and people relying on children to translate are 2 different issues?

It does happen in Leicester now. You may recall a large new Sainsbury's - i have seen it there countless times.

And, I have never seen it in Loughborough. I think it's a while since you left the area.

And there have been fights between different factions in Leicester.

kittylester

I live near Leicester and we are friends with people of all nationalities but there are large areas near the city where no integration is apparent and there are regular fights between different nationalities

And, I am sometimes shocked to see small children translating for their youngish parents.

Very common in Dordogneshire and parts of Spain.

In my experience, this never happened in Leicester but often in Loughborough (very poor Bengali families from Silhet).

Okay, just addressing the specific and not the general, and I looked it up for you, there are vegan haribo sweets. Might help in this specific situation.

Going back to the point about integration there's always a compromise to be made and it's usually the white british who have to make it.
My GC attend a COE school, so a Christian school, they take sweets in for the class when it's their Birthday. Recently a letter was sent home from school to say in future sweets brought into school for Birthdays should be Haribo halal.
My son doesn't agree with halal slaughter so won't be buying them.
About 2% of the the children look of Asian origin.

I am definitely a Humanist.

I do pray silently each night, I find it gives me comfort, a way to order my feelings towards family, friends, world situations and to give thanks for my life and health.

Am I confused? probably, does it interfere with anyone else? definitely not.

It just works for me

I am an atheist and resolutely not a humanist.

I am sn atheist and a humanist. In terms of things spiritual, I find that in music, art and nature. I don't believe in any kind of divine being or religion, but I do believe in human kindness, caring for others and living my life to try and leave the world a better place.
History and the state of the modern world do not demonstrate to me that organised religion inevitably leads people down the paths of peace; quite the opposite, in fact.

I may be agnostic, other times I'm not so sure and find myself praying.

Yes, I think you are right, agnostic is a very useful term. As in thinking there may be a possibility of a spiritual life, but unsure, however open to exploring. I think there are quite a lot of people on the "borderlines" of religion...
...who don't at one moment think there can be that sense of the spiritual, but on times of great sorrow or joy do "connect".

Yes, I was just pondering.

Possibly agnostic might be a better term.

At first I thought, "we are rather off topic here" then remembered that after all the O/P is about tolerance and intolerance.

I think some atheists are quite aggressive in their hatred of religion: look at Richard Dawkins - maybe humanists aren't so?

I did google it to see what they came up with, and found this:

"An atheist is someone who lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

Humanism, on the other hand, is a worldview that emphasizes human agency and reason, focusing on human welfare and ethical conduct without relying on supernatural beliefs.

While atheism is a lack of belief, humanism is a positive approach to life. Many humanists are also atheists, but it's possible to be one without the other."

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing on this one, as we probably all have our own definitions.

So an atheist could also be a humanist.
And a humanist is an atheist?

Definition of Humanist

"A humanist is someone who bases their worldview and ethics on reason, experience, and empathy, rather than religious or supernatural beliefs." Just in case posters hadn't come across it.

Helping out with English classes/groups is a great way to meet interesting people.

I don't know, Allira, waiting for the next meeting my first. Its in person and Zoom.

This is what google says

"Yes, Humanists are increasingly included in interfaith groups and dialogues. While the term "interfaith" is often associated with religious groups, many organizations and forums now recognize and include Humanists and other non-religious groups as valuable participants in discussions about community cohesion and shared values.

(My parents were Humanists)

Yes: various Christians, Muslims, Jewish people, Buddhists.

Is it just people who have a faith who tend to join, or are some members atheists?

I'm glad to have the chance, an will see how it goes, Doodledog. Choosing hope over its opposites.

I think you are both right. I would very much like to join a multicultural group. Where I worked was very multicultural, but where I live is not, so there is unlikely to be one near me any time soon. I miss engaging with people of all cultures on a regular basis.

But the people who would join such a group would be those with the inclination and freedom to do so, not the prejudiced (from any culture) or those who are unable to engage because of language or other restrictions. I would still join, given the chance though.

Wyllow3

I choose to join, end of.

Now who was it who said end of was rude?