I agree with you Doodledog probably a back story and is this a good lesson to teach your daughter, running to the press?
I await other parents following suit.
The school have apologised, that should be enough
People who drop out at the last minute
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvj289y788o
Poor kid. I heard this on breakfast news and could not believe it. She is apparently a grade A student in her first year at High School and this will surely stay with her right through her school career now.
The school have apologised but what on earth were they thinking of in the first place?
I guess the buck stops with the Head Teacher and she should definitely be forced to take some training on being proud to be British.
I agree with you Doodledog probably a back story and is this a good lesson to teach your daughter, running to the press?
I await other parents following suit.
The school have apologised, that should be enough
My knowledge is in relation to early years settings, but the British values that must (it is not optional) be discussed/promoted are democracy, rule of law, individual liberty and tolerance of different faiths/beliefs. I don't think people are saying that these vaues are unique to Britain just that they are a key part of our culture. And obviously some countries are not fortunate enough to have individual liberty, democracy, etc.
Spinnaker
And there's the rub Primrose, no-one is supposed to show pride in being British anymore.
I think the tide is turning. Thankfully.
I don't have any problems with her speech, or her dress, and the school was wrong.
However, I'm with BlueBelle on the British Values poster. I do not see these as exclusively British. Are they not pretty much the values of the Norwegians, or the Dutch, or the Spanish or..?
I have heard some citizens of the USA explaining how their country is the greatest, the last bastion of free speech, liberty etc. I would hope that the British citizen has a more realistic world view, and understands that humanity is not the prerogative of our nation only.
Bluebell
It is precisely comments like yours, such as as only providing British Values thats the problem. I do have issues with it. We are supposed to watch every word we say in case it causes offence? Why. Its Britain. I am British, nothing to apologise for, love and respect out values. If you can’t wear your own flag in your own country there is a big problem with those that oppose it. Her speech was good, the poster not offensive. It’s absolutely ridiculous. The problem here is the Head, obviously what she thinks, needs to go bad influence on the students.
Crikey there must be some geniuses running that school, they have achieved the exact opposite of what they intended, a few more votes for Reform for a start.
REKA
Number 10 has condemned the school now.
Did Bridget Phillipson comment?
Stupid decision by school. Lots of bodies display the Union flag (including the Labour Party).
Oddly, my late mother always disapproved of using the emblem of the Union Jack on anything other than the flag. She thought it was disrespectful!
Number 10 has condemned the school now.
Sounds good to me, and I would hazard a guess sounds good to most except those who like to trash our society through mistaken aspects of wokery.
I agree.
A good speech,well-written, thoughtful and a sensible comment about British culture being ignored; so let's celebrate all cultures.
As someone said, what was she supposed to wear?
Good speech.
Sorry I don’t know why it doubled itself!! 🫢
e speech in full
A faded picture of a union jack, with the text of the girl's speech overlaid:
Hello everyone.
Today I want to talk about my culture - British culture - and why it’s important to me.
In Britain, we have lots of traditions including drinking tea, our love for talking about the weather and we have the Royal Family.
We have amazing history, like Kings and Queens, castles, and writers like Shakespeare.
It's also modern, diverse and always changing - with music, fashion and food from all around the world blending into daily life. And let’s not forget fish and chips!
It's also the way we speak, our humour, our values of fairness and politeness, and the mix of old traditions and new ideas.
But sometimes at school, we only hear about other cultures — which is great because learning about different countries is interesting and important. But it can feel like being British doesn’t count as a culture, just because it’s the majority.
I think culture should be for everyone — not just for people from other countries or backgrounds. Being British is still a culture, and it matters too. It’s part of who I am.
So let’s celebrate all cultures — whether they come from far away or right here at home.
Thank you!
Hello everyone.
Today I want to talk about my culture - British culture - and why it’s important to me.
In Britain, we have lots of traditions including drinking tea, our love for talking about the weather and we have the Royal Family.
We have amazing history, like Kings and Queens, castles, and writers like Shakespeare.
It's also modern, diverse and always changing - with music, fashion and food from all around the world blending into daily life. And let’s not forget fish and chips!
It's also the way we speak, our humour, our values of fairness and politeness, and the mix of old traditions and new ideas.
But sometimes at school, we only hear about other cultures - which is great because learning about different countries is interesting and important. But it can feel like being British doesn’t count as a culture, just because it’s the majority.
I think culture should be for everyone - not just for people from other countries or backgrounds. Being British is still a culture, and it matters too. It’s part of who I am.
So let’s celebrate all cultures - whether they come from far away or right here at home.
Thank you!
Above is a copy of her speech and it looks very well thought out to me.
Smileless2012
The school has offered its full and sincere apologies Doodledog. She's been asked to go back in the dress and read her speech, so I doubt there's anymore to the story.
They might not relish more publicity.
I have no idea, really, but children are sent home all the time (often for things like wearing the wrong shoes) and it doesn't make the news, or be discussed as something that will blight the rest of their school careers, 'A students' or not.
Exactly, Granmarderby. I wonder if the girl is being used. I can't imagine my father getting involved in something like that, and if Mr Dog had gone to the press because one of ours had been sent home there would have been 'words spoken'
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The school has offered its full and sincere apologies Doodledog. She's been asked to go back in the dress and read her speech, so I doubt there's anymore to the story.
I assume, but maybe wrong, that her speech three paragraphs from the bottom criticised the school and possibly was even seen as provocation? That doesn't go down well with some educationalists.
I agree with Doodledog that there might be more than meets the eye, but the school got it wrong and made a silly decision.
The school will reflect on how this (the incident) could have been handled better.... and ensure our policies ...reflect our values of inclusion, respect and understanding for all
Part of the explanation, ( I would not call it an apology), posted on the website of Stowe Valley Academy Trust.
Not an apology from the actual School or the staff who decided this child's dress was not appropriate, removed her from class, and made the decision to send her home. In fact a suspension for preparing a presentation on her own culture, as she was instructed to do.
I am glad this family has gone public because far too often these incidents happen when pupils are punished unjustly but are scared into silence for fear of being called racist.
My thoughts are kind of “click bait-ish” I glanced at the article on the BBC site.
I wonder if the girl chose the dress- reminiscent of Spice Girls
But when did average dads become so involved in what daughters wear for school?
What has the fact that she is a 'Grade A' student got to do with it?
I don't see why the incident should define her throughout her school career - if it does it will be because her father went to the press with the story, though. I wonder whether he was behind the speech in the first place?
I agree that British culture is valuable, and lament the fact that far right groups have hijacked the Union Jack (and the England flag in particular - the flags of the other home nations are still seen as acceptable), but I'd be interested to learn whether there is more to this than meets the eye.
Oh I don't agree BlueBelle.
Personally I don’t like that poster V3ra as it’s promoting the idea that only the British have good values
I think the poster itself is fine if entitle ‘Values we should all have’ or something on those lines But those values don’t apply only to Brits , all cultures should and do follow those values
Sounds strange what did the other white English kids wear then ! Presumably they did nt dress in Saris or wear turbans
I don’t understand what the school was expecting !!!
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