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Primrose53 Tue 15-Jul-25 17:05:47

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvj289y788o

Poor kid. I heard this on breakfast news and could not believe it. She is apparently a grade A student in her first year at High School and this will surely stay with her right through her school career now.

The school have apologised but what on earth were they thinking of in the first place?

I guess the buck stops with the Head Teacher and she should definitely be forced to take some training on being proud to be British.

Sago Tue 15-Jul-25 17:06:30

Wokery😱.

Spinnaker Tue 15-Jul-25 17:25:04

And there's the rub Primrose, no-one is supposed to show pride in being British anymore.

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Jul-25 17:25:21

What was she supposed to wear?

V3ra Tue 15-Jul-25 17:30:16

Her speech is very well written and spot on.

As a childminder I am supposed to promote Great British Values.
We have this poster, which I added the flag details to, on the wall in the hall.
It prompts a lot of conversation!

BlueBelle Tue 15-Jul-25 17:31:07

Sounds strange what did the other white English kids wear then ! Presumably they did nt dress in Saris or wear turbans
I don’t understand what the school was expecting !!!

BlueBelle Tue 15-Jul-25 17:33:58

Personally I don’t like that poster V3ra as it’s promoting the idea that only the British have good values
I think the poster itself is fine if entitle ‘Values we should all have’ or something on those lines But those values don’t apply only to Brits , all cultures should and do follow those values

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Jul-25 17:37:21

Oh I don't agree BlueBelle.

Doodledog Tue 15-Jul-25 17:41:01

What has the fact that she is a 'Grade A' student got to do with it?

I don't see why the incident should define her throughout her school career - if it does it will be because her father went to the press with the story, though. I wonder whether he was behind the speech in the first place?

I agree that British culture is valuable, and lament the fact that far right groups have hijacked the Union Jack (and the England flag in particular - the flags of the other home nations are still seen as acceptable), but I'd be interested to learn whether there is more to this than meets the eye.

Granmarderby10 Tue 15-Jul-25 17:41:56

My thoughts are kind of “click bait-ish” I glanced at the article on the BBC site.
I wonder if the girl chose the dress- reminiscent of Spice Girls
But when did average dads become so involved in what daughters wear for school?

eazybee Tue 15-Jul-25 17:47:00

The school will reflect on how this (the incident) could have been handled better.... and ensure our policies ...reflect our values of inclusion, respect and understanding for all

Part of the explanation, ( I would not call it an apology), posted on the website of Stowe Valley Academy Trust.
Not an apology from the actual School or the staff who decided this child's dress was not appropriate, removed her from class, and made the decision to send her home. In fact a suspension for preparing a presentation on her own culture, as she was instructed to do.
I am glad this family has gone public because far too often these incidents happen when pupils are punished unjustly but are scared into silence for fear of being called racist.

escaped Tue 15-Jul-25 17:47:01

I assume, but maybe wrong, that her speech three paragraphs from the bottom criticised the school and possibly was even seen as provocation? That doesn't go down well with some educationalists.
I agree with Doodledog that there might be more than meets the eye, but the school got it wrong and made a silly decision.

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Jul-25 17:47:22

The school has offered its full and sincere apologies Doodledog. She's been asked to go back in the dress and read her speech, so I doubt there's anymore to the story.

Doodledog Tue 15-Jul-25 17:48:15

Exactly, Granmarderby. I wonder if the girl is being used. I can't imagine my father getting involved in something like that, and if Mr Dog had gone to the press because one of ours had been sent home there would have been 'words spoken' grin.

Doodledog Tue 15-Jul-25 17:50:19

Smileless2012

The school has offered its full and sincere apologies Doodledog. She's been asked to go back in the dress and read her speech, so I doubt there's anymore to the story.

They might not relish more publicity.

I have no idea, really, but children are sent home all the time (often for things like wearing the wrong shoes) and it doesn't make the news, or be discussed as something that will blight the rest of their school careers, 'A students' or not.

Fairislecable Tue 15-Jul-25 17:54:45

e speech in full
A faded picture of a union jack, with the text of the girl's speech overlaid:

Hello everyone.
Today I want to talk about my culture - British culture - and why it’s important to me.
In Britain, we have lots of traditions including drinking tea, our love for talking about the weather and we have the Royal Family.
We have amazing history, like Kings and Queens, castles, and writers like Shakespeare.
It's also modern, diverse and always changing - with music, fashion and food from all around the world blending into daily life. And let’s not forget fish and chips!
It's also the way we speak, our humour, our values of fairness and politeness, and the mix of old traditions and new ideas.
But sometimes at school, we only hear about other cultures — which is great because learning about different countries is interesting and important. But it can feel like being British doesn’t count as a culture, just because it’s the majority.
I think culture should be for everyone — not just for people from other countries or backgrounds. Being British is still a culture, and it matters too. It’s part of who I am.
So let’s celebrate all cultures — whether they come from far away or right here at home.
Thank you!
Hello everyone.
Today I want to talk about my culture - British culture - and why it’s important to me.
In Britain, we have lots of traditions including drinking tea, our love for talking about the weather and we have the Royal Family.
We have amazing history, like Kings and Queens, castles, and writers like Shakespeare.
It's also modern, diverse and always changing - with music, fashion and food from all around the world blending into daily life. And let’s not forget fish and chips!
It's also the way we speak, our humour, our values of fairness and politeness, and the mix of old traditions and new ideas.
But sometimes at school, we only hear about other cultures - which is great because learning about different countries is interesting and important. But it can feel like being British doesn’t count as a culture, just because it’s the majority.
I think culture should be for everyone - not just for people from other countries or backgrounds. Being British is still a culture, and it matters too. It’s part of who I am.
So let’s celebrate all cultures - whether they come from far away or right here at home.
Thank you!

Above is a copy of her speech and it looks very well thought out to me.

Fairislecable Tue 15-Jul-25 17:56:06

Sorry I don’t know why it doubled itself!! 🫢

Smileless2012 Tue 15-Jul-25 18:00:50

Good speech.

eazybee Tue 15-Jul-25 18:02:40

I agree.
A good speech,well-written, thoughtful and a sensible comment about British culture being ignored; so let's celebrate all cultures.
As someone said, what was she supposed to wear?

Oreo Tue 15-Jul-25 18:03:15

Sounds good to me, and I would hazard a guess sounds good to most except those who like to trash our society through mistaken aspects of wokery.

REKA Tue 15-Jul-25 18:06:32

Number 10 has condemned the school now.

vintage1950 Tue 15-Jul-25 18:09:32

Oddly, my late mother always disapproved of using the emblem of the Union Jack on anything other than the flag. She thought it was disrespectful!

Grantanow Tue 15-Jul-25 18:10:55

Stupid decision by school. Lots of bodies display the Union flag (including the Labour Party).

escaped Tue 15-Jul-25 18:12:09

REKA

Number 10 has condemned the school now.

Did Bridget Phillipson comment?

Galaxy Tue 15-Jul-25 18:34:20

Crikey there must be some geniuses running that school, they have achieved the exact opposite of what they intended, a few more votes for Reform for a start.