But not to that extreme PoliticsNerd! Big difference.
You ought not to conflate slavery with capitalism in my opinion.
Far too simplistic to fit a narrative.
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Trump said: âOn immigration you better get your act together or youâre not going to have Europe anymore.â
(722 Posts)The US president said that a âhorrible invasionâ was taking place, adding it had to âstopâ, shortly after touching down on Air Force One at Glasgow Airport.
âAsked about illegal migration to Britain, Mr Trump said: âOn immigration you better get your act together or youâre not going to have Europe anymore.â
He continued: âYouâve got to stop this horrible invasion that is happening to Europe, many countries in Europe.â
âSome leaders have not let it happen, and theyâre not getting the proper credit... I could name them to you right now, but Iâm not going to embarrass the other ones. But stop, this immigration is killing Europe.â
Mr Trump, who has made border control a key priority of his presidency, said: âLast month we had nobody entering our country.â
Well done Trump. Heâs not wrong! đŹđ§
PoliticsNerd
Slavery, modern or otherwise, is a product of extreme capitalism, where it is deemed acceptable that everything, including your labour and your life, can and must be bought for the lowest price possible including zero, and without regard to law or convention.
If you voted for Brexit, or support Trump or Farage, et al, you are supporting that view of politics and economics.
I voted for Brexit.
I do not support slavery of any kind.
Do not tell me what politics or economic policies I support!
I voted for Brexit.
I admire Trump.
I think Farage has his finger on the pulse but I think Reform will do well but wonât form a government but will certainly hold the Tories feet to the fire. No bad thing!
Labour wonât get in again âŠ. đź
I admire Trump
A very polite question.......why? 
I'm quite convinced neither you, GrannyGravy13 nor many who voted that way, voted consciously for such things as modern slavery. Nor, I would guess, were most of those voting for Trump of Farage, or the (very) far-right figures in any country.
However, the people trying to gain power through such votes have shown themselves, little by little, to be like-minded in their views of extreme capitalism.
These people follow the "law of the jungle", where there are no rules or regulations, and survival depends solely on strength, cunning, or competition. The most extreme views of such people suggest a belief system which endorses a competitive environment where businesses or individuals act ruthlessly, with little regard for social welfare, ethics, or regulation.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
I voted for Brexit.
I admire Trump.
I think Farage has his finger on the pulse but I think Reform will do well but wonât form a government but will certainly hold the Tories feet to the fire. No bad thing!
Labour wonât get in again âŠ. đź
Iâm sure Farage has his finger on the pulse. Thatâs why he offers people what they want albeit with having no comprehension whatsoever of how heâs going to deliver itâŠ(bit like Brexit reallyâŠ)
And Starmer âŠ. đ
Iâve not heard Farage or Trump for that matter endorse modern slavery. Perhaps those who think otherwise can enlighten us.
On another note, the Telegraph are reporting today that the Red Cross are paying for flights to the UK for migrants to join family already here. Read all about it in the Telegraph for the doubters.
woodenspoon
Iâve not heard Farage or Trump for that matter endorse modern slavery. Perhaps those who think otherwise can enlighten us.
On another note, the Telegraph are reporting today that the Red Cross are paying for flights to the UK for migrants to join family already here. Read all about it in the Telegraph for the doubters.
Why do you think they would? Do you think a party of the far left would come in with the leaders talking about "Communism tomorrow"?
However, if you think they will only say the things that mobilised the disaffected who are their base, you have learned nothing from the 20th Century dictators. From Joseph Stalin to Adolf Hitler, Augusto Pinoche to Mao Zedong and from Benito Mussolini to Kim Il Sung they start with what pleases the base we can clearly see, but they certainly don't stop there.
Well the Uni-party have miscalculated.
Voters didnât have a credible third option before.
They do now.
Re the Red Cross:
My sister just messaged me âThey are not only undermining the country of the very people who pay for their actions, but "proud" to do so? Never again. I will never support the Red Cross again. Is this their Gerald Ratner moment?â
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I wish he would mind his own business!
He has made it quite clear he doesn't give a hoot for Europe, so why is he now airing his views on how we do things?
FriedGreenTomatoes2
Re the Red Cross:
My sister just messaged me âThey are not only undermining the country of the very people who pay for their actions, but "proud" to do so? Never again. I will never support the Red Cross again. Is this their Gerald Ratner moment?â
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Doubt it. Iâve never given to them before but I will now. Do you not contribute to the lifeboats either because they rescue migrants?
MayBee70
FriedGreenTomatoes2
Re the Red Cross:
My sister just messaged me âThey are not only undermining the country of the very people who pay for their actions, but "proud" to do so? Never again. I will never support the Red Cross again. Is this their Gerald Ratner moment?â
đłDoubt it. Iâve never given to them before but I will now. Do you not contribute to the lifeboats either because they rescue migrants?
Oh I do - the RLNI always gets a Christmas box. I donât contribute to the Red Cross, but I think that they are a worthwhile charity.
The Red Cross alienated many when they stopped Christmas decorations etc in their charity shops âin case it offends non Christiansâ I believe. Woke nonsense from a CEO who earns ÂŁ200k+
No International charities support Christmas though - clue, they are international.
Casdon
No International charities support Christmas though - clue, they are international.
If the shops are here in the UK cannot see any reason for them not to have Christmas decorations up.
After all the London Mayor has Ramadan lights in Oxford StâŠ
I just â€ïž how threads meander! đ
AuntieE
I wish he would mind his own business!
He has made it quite clear he doesn't give a hoot for Europe, so why is he now airing his views on how we do things?
He wants to own the world AuntieE - or as much of it as he can get his grubby little hands on. I don't think he will stop interfering until he's gone - and maybe not even then sadly.
âOwns the worldâ đ
Just wants whatâs fair for America. Heâs sick of the freeloaders.
Canât say I blame him.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
âOwns the worldâ đ
Just wants whatâs fair for America. Heâs sick of the freeloaders.
Canât say I blame him.
He and his ilk will see you as exactly that if you can't keep making him rich.
Are you suggesting that all those he has put out of work were "freeloaders"?
My fault PoliticsNerd I was referring to the other countries (tariffs) that Trump is dealing with and is resentful of. I didnât make myself very clear.
FriedGreenTomatoes2
I just â€ïž how threads meander! đ
I simply adore the fact that you can't own your own racism and love for Trump.
I just adore the fact that Friedgreentomatoes2 is unfailingly polite and never goads other posters.
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