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Trump said: “On immigration you better get your act together or you’re not going to have Europe anymore.”

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 25-Jul-25 22:18:56

The US president said that a “horrible invasion” was taking place, adding it had to “stop”, shortly after touching down on Air Force One at Glasgow Airport.

“Asked about illegal migration to Britain, Mr Trump said: “On immigration you better get your act together or you’re not going to have Europe anymore.”
He continued: “You’ve got to stop this horrible invasion that is happening to Europe, many countries in Europe.”
“Some leaders have not let it happen, and they’re not getting the proper credit... I could name them to you right now, but I’m not going to embarrass the other ones. But stop, this immigration is killing Europe.”
Mr Trump, who has made border control a key priority of his presidency, said: “Last month we had nobody entering our country.”

Well done Trump. He’s not wrong! 🇬🇧

Freya5 Sun 27-Jul-25 17:51:46

Whitewavemark2

Mt61

Whitewavemark2

Not clear why a foreign convicted felon, rapist and alleged paedophile should be given approval by a thread’s headlines?

I can think of all sorts of people who might make the same argument and who have a much higher moral standing.

Although quite difficult to have a lower one frankly.

Try raising your eyes higher. Would you trust him around your teenage daughter?

You don’t know that for sure that he’s a paedo, or rapist!

The word alleged gives you a clue.

So "alleged" means guilty now.
Glad I don't live in your circle.
In my book proven = guilty.

Freya5 Sun 27-Jul-25 17:57:32

Doodledog

We didn't have a civil war, with neighbours raping and looting and murdering. There were safe havens and more options as we had allies and our enemies were abroad.

I'm not minimising anything, but the situation was different than those in many areas of the world today.

Yes and many of there near neighbours are not war torn.
Jordan
Saudi Arabia
UAE
Maurituis
Botswana
Zambia
Ghana
Tanzania.
No wars in Karachi, Pakistan India, plenty more,
So why pay thousands to smugglers to come to UK.
As someone in Washington said
"You think our streets are paved with gold, they are not, we cannot give you all you demand".

Maremia Sun 27-Jul-25 18:00:29

He has been found guilty on all 34 counts in his porn star hush money case.
So, he is a convicted felon.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 27-Jul-25 18:06:10

He’s with Ursula vd Leyen at present. A press conference. But he wants pharmaceuticals back in the USA. The Republic of Ireland will take a huge hit.

OldFrill Sun 27-Jul-25 18:11:34

flump

There were protests in Scotland, some choose not to believe that. As they also believe there is a lot of support for this sad sample of humanity.

His numbers on various subjects are under water, as the Americans say.

All you have to do is look at wider news sources. Look at you tube, for example, to see clips of demonstrators in Scotland.

There are more protests planned now Swinney is giving him ÂŁ180K of tax payers money. I am surprised it's such a paltry amount.

smallday51 Sun 27-Jul-25 19:01:53

Yes...we need to do something about immigration. No we don't need to follow in the footsteps of this racist self serving self satisfying thug who has done more to destabilise the world economy and to endanger our selves and the futures of our children than anyone since ...Imv...Hitler. Just back from Prague. A visit to the communist museum there revealed in a very frightening manner how fragile our democratic processes are and how easily they can be overturned. And now we have a self serving convicted millionaire supporting the invasion of Ukraine...allowing genocide in Gaza...and basically rewiting the rule book for democracy in the USA. He.may have a point. But its a skewed view from a dictator...and we should all call it and him out.

smallday51 Sun 27-Jul-25 19:17:36

Actually take back the reference to H...just very shocked by how, as in the 30's things can change so quickly. It is frightening.

valdavi Sun 27-Jul-25 19:26:44

Haven't read all the posts, but as a climate change denier with the slogan "Burn, baby, burn" where does Trump expect people from africa to go when his policies have led to their own homeland becoming uninhabitable?

StripeyGran Sun 27-Jul-25 19:38:15

I can only assume Trump's ranting is connected to colour.
There seems no other logical explanation.

smallday The Musee Jean Moulin is a case in point.

Elegran Sun 27-Jul-25 20:17:44

StripeyGran

I can only assume Trump's ranting is connected to colour.
There seems no other logical explanation.

smallday The Musee Jean Moulin is a case in point.

No, he rants about anyone he thinks is either not giving him something he wants or who is getting something that he doesn't want to lose the chance of keeping to himself.

That includes everything from women who don't fancy him, anyone who doesn't brown-nose him but points out his shortcomings instead, people who are not well enough to work so are supported by government funds that he thinks all belong to him,, veterans who are getting praise for fighting for their country while he had "bone spurs", and his predecessors in office as POTUS who were admired more than he is, to countries which refuse to sell themselves or their assets to him cheaply and expect him to honour his previous agreements. To name but a few.

StripeyGran Sun 27-Jul-25 20:24:26

Perhaps OP will return soon with some salient points.

Casdon Sun 27-Jul-25 20:26:08

FriedGreenTomatoes2

He’s with Ursula vd Leyen at present. A press conference. But he wants pharmaceuticals back in the USA. The Republic of Ireland will take a huge hit.

Nothing about pharmaceuticals has been announced that I’ve seen, it looks a reasonable deal from Europe’s perspective, given energy and defence are both priorities.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 27-Jul-25 20:32:28

StripeyGran

Perhaps OP will return soon with some salient points.

Here you go 


“5:43pm today
Blow for Ireland as Trump rules out pharma deal
Donald Trump insisted “pharmaceuticals won’t be a part of” any trade deal today with the EU.

That is particularly bad news for Ireland, which exported just shy of €100bn of medical and pharmaceutical goods last year, much of it to the critical American market. Sales to the US boomed further in the early months of this year as importers sought to bring in supplies before border taxes came in.

The world’s biggest pharma companies, including Pfizer, Novartis and AstraZeneca all have major operations in the country. The Trump administration has argued that low taxes and incentives to invest in Ireland have unfairly pulled research and development as well as manufacturing out of the US and into the Celtic nation.

The presence of major multinationals in Ireland has helped transform its economy, and to deliver an extraordinary boost to its public finances - which may be at risk if the US President finds ways to force companies, workers and factories to move across the Atlantic.

Mr Trump said there is a 50-50 chance of a trade deal with the EU, but said “pharmaceuticals won’t be a part of it.”

“We have to have them made in the US, we want them made in the US. Pharmaceuticals are very special,” he said.

“We can’t be in a position where we are relying on other countries. Europe is going to make pharmaceuticals, drugs and everything else for us too, a lot, but we are going to make our own.”

Source the Telegraph latest just now.

StripeyGran Sun 27-Jul-25 21:04:07

Seriously, what is wrong with you?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 27-Jul-25 21:08:26

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Sorry I have no idea what you mean StripeyGran.
Have I offended you in some way?

MayBee70 Sun 27-Jul-25 21:08:55

I don’t understand why someone is so ‘patriotic’ is so pleased to see an American president shaft the UK and Ireland in every way possible.

Casdon Sun 27-Jul-25 21:11:12

FriedGreenTomatoes2

StripeyGran

Perhaps OP will return soon with some salient points.

Here you go 


“5:43pm today
Blow for Ireland as Trump rules out pharma deal
Donald Trump insisted “pharmaceuticals won’t be a part of” any trade deal today with the EU.

That is particularly bad news for Ireland, which exported just shy of €100bn of medical and pharmaceutical goods last year, much of it to the critical American market. Sales to the US boomed further in the early months of this year as importers sought to bring in supplies before border taxes came in.

The world’s biggest pharma companies, including Pfizer, Novartis and AstraZeneca all have major operations in the country. The Trump administration has argued that low taxes and incentives to invest in Ireland have unfairly pulled research and development as well as manufacturing out of the US and into the Celtic nation.

The presence of major multinationals in Ireland has helped transform its economy, and to deliver an extraordinary boost to its public finances - which may be at risk if the US President finds ways to force companies, workers and factories to move across the Atlantic.

Mr Trump said there is a 50-50 chance of a trade deal with the EU, but said “pharmaceuticals won’t be a part of it.”

“We have to have them made in the US, we want them made in the US. Pharmaceuticals are very special,” he said.

“We can’t be in a position where we are relying on other countries. Europe is going to make pharmaceuticals, drugs and everything else for us too, a lot, but we are going to make our own.”

Source the Telegraph latest just now.

That actually means nothing much in reality though, does it FriedGreenTomatoes2? Ireland manufactures drugs for a much wider client base than the US, and Trump hasn’t struck any deals to have anything manufactured in the USA. There was no announcement today. As it stands, it’s a case of all mouth and no trousers.

petra Sun 27-Jul-25 21:11:52

Immigration protests are getting very nasty in Poland.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xpfH7QCIkA

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 27-Jul-25 21:17:36

Fair enough Casdon I was just sharing what (I thought) I’d been asked to. What I’d read?

Allira Sun 27-Jul-25 21:19:54

As it stands, it’s a case of all mouth and no trousers.

Please NO shock 🙈

Allira Sun 27-Jul-25 21:22:27

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Fair enough Casdon I was just sharing what (I thought) I’d been asked to. What I’d read?

I thought you were just answering another poster, Stripeygran so when you did as requested, she then asked after your health! confused

Casdon Sun 27-Jul-25 21:28:02

Allira

^As it stands, it’s a case of all mouth and no trousers.^

Please NO shock 🙈

I never thought of that - how horribly appropriate, please accept my apologies!

Allira Sun 27-Jul-25 21:30:13

The thought! đŸ„ș

Claremont Mon 28-Jul-25 08:54:54

FriedGreenTomatoes2

??
Sorry I have no idea what you mean StripeyGran.
Have I offended you in some way?

As an immigrant, married to another immigrant, with immigrant family and friends- who have all massively contributed to the UK in one way or another- I am afraid that yes, your views on immigration do offend me FGT2, very much so.

Maremia Mon 28-Jul-25 09:00:29

We are all immigrants. Just came over in different times, in different boats.