Starmers comment

I am surprised that our PM agreed to the press junket seeing that it is a private visit by POTUS.

Nothing wrong with meeting him in private, but by appearing with the worlds press at a live sit down he must have realised that POTUS sole intent was to get his point over at the cost of everything else…

Do you think he had a choice in the light of the clamour from the media and Trump’s bullishness GrannyGravy13? He could hardly refuse without looking unreasonable.

Casdon

Do you think he had a choice in the light of the clamour from the media and Trump’s bullishness GrannyGravy13? He could hardly refuse without looking unreasonable.

In my humble opinion he could have declined as soon as POTUS’s private visit was announced to all and sundry.

He could have said we shall wait until your official State Visit, and do things our way in our country.

POTUS welcoming the PM of the U.K. on the steps in Scotland as if he was in charge was a coup for POTUS and cringe worthy for those of us Brits watching…

It was announced some time ago that Trump was intending to mix business and pleasure when he came to the UK GrannyGravy, so his meeting with Starmer was pre-arranged?

Casdon

It was announced some time ago that Trump was intending to mix business and pleasure when he came to the UK GrannyGravy, so his meeting with Starmer was pre-arranged?

In that case we might just as well recognise that POTUS is pulling our government’s strings along with a fair few others 🤷‍♀️

To me the most revealing comment of all was Starmer saying that Khan is a friend of his.

That explains a lot.

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

It was announced some time ago that Trump was intending to mix business and pleasure when he came to the UK GrannyGravy, so his meeting with Starmer was pre-arranged?

In that case we might just as well recognise that POTUS is pulling our government’s strings along with a fair few others 🤷‍♀️

I think Starmer wanted to meet him though, he appears to have bent Trump’s ear about Gaza amongst other issues. I imagine he had a list.

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

It was announced some time ago that Trump was intending to mix business and pleasure when he came to the UK GrannyGravy, so his meeting with Starmer was pre-arranged?

In that case we might just as well recognise that POTUS is pulling our government’s strings along with a fair few others 🤷‍♀️

I think we do have to recognise that fact GG13 tbh.
The US is the most powerful country on the planet and the POTUS it’s mouthpiece.

Apologies in advance for the surplus apostrophe 😁

And unfortunately, what comes out of his mouth can be a problem.

Unfortunately what comes out of a lot of politicians mouths is a problem.

Maremia

And unfortunately, what comes out of his mouth can be a problem.

We are not a great power and Europe needs the US on its side.

Starmer!! the man who took a taxpayer funded private jet to see the lionesses

Horrible self-serving man. That money could have gone on food aid

Revolting, heartbreaking, unsupportable, unforgivable, there are plenty of words but in this case words can’t even begin to describe the pictures coming out of Gaza.
Is hell on earth.

Btw pedants both insupportable and u supportable can be used in this instance.

JenniferEccles

To me the most revealing comment of all was Starmer saying that Khan is a friend of his.

That explains a lot.

It certainly does 😱

What puzzles me is that Gaza isn’t an island. Why are other local Middle Eastern countries not helping these people? Why are they not offering them routes out of the country, aid, hospital treatment etc?

Quote woodenspoon Tue 29-Jul-25 10:33:32
What puzzles me is that Gaza isn’t an island. Why are other local Middle Eastern countries not helping these people? Why are they not offering them routes out of the country, aid, hospital treatment etc?

1948 Israel created

1948 5 countries Arab declared war on Israel

woodenspoon

What puzzles me is that Gaza isn’t an island. Why are other local Middle Eastern countries not helping these people? Why are they not offering them routes out of the country, aid, hospital treatment etc?

Many of these countries have large Palestinian refugee populations from past conflicts and as these refugees know and the host countries know any Palestinian who leaves Gaza will have no right to return.
Also nobody is allowed in or out without having to run the gauntlet of IDF militarised zones.

woodenspoon

What puzzles me is that Gaza isn’t an island. Why are other local Middle Eastern countries not helping these people? Why are they not offering them routes out of the country, aid, hospital treatment etc?

They don’t want them, it’s as simple as that.

I suppose it all depends who you are whether you can leave Gaza or not.
If you happen to be the widow of a dead Hamas leader it’s a given.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/from-tunnel-to-turkey-how-hamas-leader-sinwars-widow-escaped-and-remarried-what-report-reveals/articleshow/122933326.cms

Anniebach

I have never seen a rabbit caught in the headlights so can’t
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Totally not relevant but your post reminded me of when that dreadful Mixamatosis hit the Uk in the 50s. The disease presumably affected the brain of rabbits, who would sit in the middle of the road, unable to move. There was no cure and the poor things died a very painful death. My grandad was a bus driver and on his country route, he would deliberately run over these poor paralysed creatures to put them out of their misery. The disease spread to domestic rabbits too, which was sad for children who had to say goodbye to their beloved pets.

Should have said, when dark, you would drive along and see the eyes of these paralysed rabbits, literally caught in the headlights. It was heartbreaking and some of them were just babies.

Oreo

woodenspoon

What puzzles me is that Gaza isn’t an island. Why are other local Middle Eastern countries not helping these people? Why are they not offering them routes out of the country, aid, hospital treatment etc?

They don’t want them, it’s as simple as that.

These countries are absorbing refugees from other wars. Egypt has taken large numbers and like surrounding companies is reluctant to take Palestinians and let in Hamas

Iam64

Oreo

woodenspoon

What puzzles me is that Gaza isn’t an island. Why are other local Middle Eastern countries not helping these people? Why are they not offering them routes out of the country, aid, hospital treatment etc?

They don’t want them, it’s as simple as that.

These countries are absorbing refugees from other wars. Egypt has taken large numbers and like surrounding companies is reluctant to take Palestinians and let in Hamas

Which is what I meant and should have elaborated on.
Egypt has had enough of terrorism in its midst.