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Entitled - The Book that Dishes the Dirt about the Yorks

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Magenta8 Thu 14-Aug-25 20:01:25

Andrew Lownie's book came out today. I have yet to read it but apparently Andrew and Fergie are both shown in a very unfavourable light.

I can't help feeling sorry for Beatrice and Eugenie.

Daddima Fri 15-Aug-25 14:04:48

Usedtobeblonde

I thought the Queen Mother left millions to her GC.
I seem to remember Harry was due to receive millions on his 40th birthday from her.

I’d imagine she would have created an untouchable trust fund for them, and then went on her merry way running up a giant overdraft at Coutts!

jomo Fri 15-Aug-25 14:07:43

Mostly based on interviews from (friends) no proof should wait till they have passed ....

StripeyGran Fri 15-Aug-25 14:08:21

petra

It looks as if this Dutch company swerved a bullet.
Just when he thought his ( and hers) money troubles were over.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62k6zkd3g5o

How on earth can they have "money troubles"

It's madness.

Anniebach Fri 15-Aug-25 14:11:42

Quote StripeyGran Fri 15-Aug-25 14:08:21
petra
It looks as if this Dutch company swerved a bullet.
Just when he thought his ( and hers) money troubles were over.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62k6zkd3g5o
How on earth can they have "money troubles"

It's madness.

They spend much ?

Lupatria Fri 15-Aug-25 14:15:41

i didn't read "spare" and i won't read this book either.
these books were written to make money and i won't contribute to muck-raking.
the past is in the past and no good will be done by re-hashing it.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 15-Aug-25 14:15:59

The late Queen must have thought highly of Sarah Ferguson as she gifted her dogs to SF on her death.

dalrymple23 Fri 15-Aug-25 14:19:11

What is the point in writing such a book? It is nasty, spiteful and unkind and totally unnecessary. Over the years, the News has amply covered the indiscretions of not just The Yorks but other notable people. What pleasure does the author get from rubbing salt into the already open wounds of that family? And remember, they are a family, with children and grandchildren, nieces and nephews.

I think that some of the posters seem to forget that.

Anniebach Fri 15-Aug-25 14:37:13

Quote GrannyGravy13 Fri 15-Aug-25 14:15:59
The late Queen must have thought highly of Sarah Ferguson as she gifted her dogs to SF on her death.

Or Andrew , I do do not believe Sarah , after the Queens death she gave yet another interview

2
Sarah Ferguson, Fergie on Queen Elizabeth and the Corgis
Following Queen Elizabeth II's death in 2022, Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, and her ex-husband, Prince Andrew, inherited the Queen's two corgis, Muick and Sandy. The Duchess has spoken about how she feels the Queen communicates with her through the dogs. She has described how the corgis, who live with her at Royal Lodge, Windsor, make her feel like the late Queen is still around, especially when they bark at seemingly nothing.

And another

On Saturday, Dec. 14, the Duchess of York, 65, revealed the touching last words the late monarch said to her ahead of her death, aged 96, in September 2022.

"Sarah, remember that yourself is good enough,” Ferguson said the Queen — whom she called, “Mumma" — said to her before she died at Balmoral Castle in Scotland.

“She knew me all my life and she loved me,” she added in an interview published in U.K. newspaper The Times.

Ferguson, who was married to Prince Andrew between 1986 and 1996, added that despite their lifelong connection she was still always “nervous” about meeting with Queen Elizabeth.

Mamie Fri 15-Aug-25 15:09:43

I am genuinely shocked by what I am reading, but I will wait to discuss the book with someone who has also read it. There isn't much point otherwise, is there?
We most certainly did not know it all.

Irismarle Fri 15-Aug-25 15:12:38

dalrymple23

What is the point in writing such a book? It is nasty, spiteful and unkind and totally unnecessary. Over the years, the News has amply covered the indiscretions of not just The Yorks but other notable people. What pleasure does the author get from rubbing salt into the already open wounds of that family? And remember, they are a family, with children and grandchildren, nieces and nephews.

I think that some of the posters seem to forget that.

I totally agree, dalrymple. I think Andrew has suffered enough, having been already publicly humiliated. Eugenie and Beatrice come over as very nice women, and I’ve always found it endearing they seem so fond of their parents and have stuck up for them through everything. They don’t deserve this muck raking which is bound to affect them badly.

Casdon Fri 15-Aug-25 15:26:32

I heard Andrew Lownie interviewed by Times Radio the other day. His book is well researched and referenced. I think the implications are very serious regarding the Epstein involvement, he alleges that Russia has all the evidence on Andrew that implicates him in much more than we currently know. In the end, if that is the case, it would be better for the monarchy, and the UK, if he sees the writing on the wall now, and retires to a completely private life, rather than drip feeding taking place which will further damage the monarchy.

win Fri 15-Aug-25 15:26:59

Anniebach

The monarchy had to change , because of the late queens long
reign it has been stuck in the past . There has been honourable people and far less so in the royal families , recently causing whispers , this book may stop any further less honourable actions in the future
Esmay surely Andrew brought the “going through hell” for his family himself, so tragic

Absolutely how can anyone feel sorry for A and F ghastly people IMO

Iam64 Fri 15-Aug-25 15:32:20

I heard the interview as well and share your views Casdon

Nannapat1 Fri 15-Aug-25 15:43:36

I didn't read 'Spare' and I shan't read 'Entitled' either. There are far more interesting and worthwhile books to read! I do watch RF television interviews though, no matter how cringeworthy they are and they are mostly cringeworthy.

Anniebach Fri 15-Aug-25 16:03:07

I share the views of Casdon and Iam , and surely he can’t make any more public appearances such as Order of The Garter

Calendargirl Fri 15-Aug-25 16:07:25

Well, I’m 21st on my library list for this book.

Looking forward to reading it.

Mamie Fri 15-Aug-25 16:07:55

Casdon

I heard Andrew Lownie interviewed by Times Radio the other day. His book is well researched and referenced. I think the implications are very serious regarding the Epstein involvement, he alleges that Russia has all the evidence on Andrew that implicates him in much more than we currently know. In the end, if that is the case, it would be better for the monarchy, and the UK, if he sees the writing on the wall now, and retires to a completely private life, rather than drip feeding taking place which will further damage the monarchy.

I quite agree. They should leave Royal Lodge too.
The chapters about finances have a huge amount of evidence and are shocking. The Maxwell / Epstein stuff, though lots more than I knew before, did not surprise me as much.
It will be interesting to see how people react when they see the evidence. I have listened to 7 out of 11 hours now!

merlotgran Fri 15-Aug-25 16:35:01

I’ve downloaded the free sample on my kindle to see whether or not it grabs me.

The excerpts in the DM didn’t exactly make me want to rush out and buy it but some of the stuff about Sarah raised my eyebrows.

Mollygo Fri 15-Aug-25 16:40:34

Anniebach

I share the views of Casdon and Iam , and surely he can’t make any more public appearances such as Order of The Garter

Agreed.
But continuing the production of carefully researched books?
If we agree that he shouldn’t appear, why continue to create opportunities for people to enjoy reading about him or enjoy seeking out further dishing of the dirt?
Why not make him disappear from public or printed life and spare his daughters further embarrassment?
Unless the GBP finds enjoyment in doing that too. . .

Smileless2012 Fri 15-Aug-25 16:46:27

Evidence of what Mamie fraud, embezzlement?

Mamie Fri 15-Aug-25 17:17:37

Smileless2012

Evidence of what Mamie fraud, embezzlement?

A lot of stuff around how much funding went to charities and the provenance of financial deals. It is definitely worth reading or listening. There are many examples with details of actual amounts of money.

Smileless2012 Fri 15-Aug-25 17:21:25

Thank you Mamie.

Anniebach Fri 15-Aug-25 17:23:44

Quote Mollygo Fri 15-Aug-25 16:40:34
Anniebach
I share the views of Casdon and Iam , and surely he can’t make any more public appearances such as Order of The Garter
Agreed.
But continuing the production of carefully researched books?
If we agree that he shouldn’t appear, why continue to create opportunities for people to enjoy reading about him or enjoy seeking out further dishing of the dirt?
Why not make him disappear from public or printed life and spare his daughters further embarrassment?
Unless the GBP finds enjoyment in doing that too.

Make him disappear from public or printed life ? How ?

Printed life? I haven’t heard or read anything from him, I so
wish Sarah would shut up, it really upset and angers me that
anyone would tell newspapers what a dying person said, or claimed they said

Parsley3 Fri 15-Aug-25 17:57:36

Surely the Duke of York hasn't squandered his way through the inheritances from his grandmother and parents but I did recently watch two TV dramas about the Yorks and their lavish spending so perhaps he has. I don't know about the purpose of this book or the timing of it. The GBP already know that Andrew has let his family down so what more is there to say? Of course, I will have to read the book to find the answer to that question.

eazybee Fri 15-Aug-25 18:42:23

Andrew Lownie has written this book with the sole intent of making money from those members of the public who are slavering with spiteful enjoyment at another's downfall.

Don't pretend this book is serving any useful purpose other than (possibly) enriching its author.