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The whole damn Christmas Thing!

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StripeyGran Wed 05-Nov-25 14:35:09

I was reading a very interesting article the other day which suggested a lot of our Christmas Traditions begin with Dickens, specifically the Christmas Carol. The whole concept of it being a family event for one.

Of course, trees were introduced in Victorian times. My GP worked at Christmas, just another day.

I see posts here and hear out and about women ( usually) agonising about the event. Falling out, harsh words, petty arguments.

Maybe its good just to dial it all down and meet up in the Spring time?

CanadianGran Thu 06-Nov-25 20:50:20

Our Christmas runs smoothly, and we don't go to huge expense or fuss. I have always struggled with gift giving, so am now resorting to small personal items and gift certificates.

I do love to have the family around the table, which is the main thing for us. I don't always go to church, if I do it will be the children's mass at 7pm on Christmas eve.

I also love Christmas carols, but the incessant playing of them from Dec 1 all over and everywhere drives me a bit mad!

Allira Thu 06-Nov-25 20:31:41

GrannyGravy13

Allira I have spent two Christmas’s in Melbourne.

Children visited Father Christmas in one of the Department stores, all the Malls were decorated with snow

They definitely celebrate Christmas on 25th December 🎄

I've been there in July quite often.

Yes, Christmas in July is definitely a thing but, of course, not everyone subscribes to that.
My family don't.

Desdemona Thu 06-Nov-25 20:03:54

Dickens was an unpleasant fellow and bad to his wife.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 06-Nov-25 19:59:56

Allira I have spent two Christmas’s in Melbourne.

Children visited Father Christmas in one of the Department stores, all the Malls were decorated with snow

They definitely celebrate Christmas on 25th December 🎄

Allira Thu 06-Nov-25 19:45:47

StripeyGran

If your parade is so well set up tra la la la

I don't think a couple of daft comments on here will divert.

Jesus being born in May is not a daft comment!

Astronomers have calculated when the star might have been visible in the sky, the census was probably not in December and shepherds would not have been in the fields with their flocks as the weather would have been too cold.

The date was chosen as it was Sol Invictus and also about the time of the pagan festival of Saturnalia.

Allira Thu 06-Nov-25 19:39:32

GrannyGravy13

Allira no, all in December 🤷‍♀️

Christmas in July is a tradition in Australia!

StripeyGran Thu 06-Nov-25 19:26:29

Froget Good Luck with your simple and timely festivities.

ginny Thu 06-Nov-25 19:14:43

Allira

Christmas is as commercial as you choose to have it. If you do not want a commercial Christmas you do not need to have one. Nobody is making you, nut I can see no reason to rain on other people'sparades.

Well said, M0nica

Have a quiet day
Have a riotous day
Go to church or not.
Go to help cook or serve meals for homeless people
Ignore it altogether

The options are endless.

Exactly my thoughts.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 06-Nov-25 19:11:41

StripeyGran

If your parade is so well set up tra la la la

I don't think a couple of daft comments on here will divert.

You talk in riddles woman. Why?

Frogoet Thu 06-Nov-25 19:11:22

Husband died recently and for the last few yrs it has been us and his carers.
I am dreading the whole thing. I’m not a Christian but enjoy carols. My Christian friends are much more likely to make a deal of Easter although they do extend an invitation to those alone- true Christian spirit rather than services with big hats and mass.
This year I’m hoping for five weather so I can bird watch with my dog.
But I suspect I will feel lonely whatever I do. Not to self. You’re still alive!

GrannyGravy13 Thu 06-Nov-25 18:48:21

Allira no, all in December 🤷‍♀️

Musicgirl Thu 06-Nov-25 18:45:47

I have always loved Christmas. My birthday is in early December and it has always been as if one celebration merged seamlessly into the next. Church services are central for me. When I was a child, Christmas was a four day extravaganza as there were five of us, my maternal grandparents and my aunt, uncle and their two children, who are almost exactly the same age as my brother and me. My sister is a little younger. We seemed to have plenty of presents without being over the top and the food was fantastic. The best part, though, was the party games. Such fun. We continued in this vein with my parents, my children and my sister’s family for many years until, inevitably, the children grew up and we have no grandchildren yet. These days, our Christmases are much quieter but we will still enjoy the day. We play board games rather than party games but still have fun. As a musician, I have always loved playing Christmas music and teaching carols and Christmas songs to my pupils. Today, I was starting Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire with a pupil - we have to start in early November in order to have a good repertoire ready for Christmas.

StripeyGran Thu 06-Nov-25 18:27:23

Warbler That was one of our best times. A simple meal and delighted to see out son who slipped under the radar ( no visitors allowed) A walk and home for crumpets and tea.

StoneofDestiny Thu 06-Nov-25 18:22:36

I love Christmas - a great excuse to snuggle up and stay cosy with immediate family. The rest of the family is too spread out to have a huge gathering (not sure I'd enjoy that anyway as I like it just being us and our children). My husband always does the cooking and enjoys it. I do decorate trees outside and inside.
New Year is the time we party with friends - often going away to a hotel somewhere for a few days, so no fuss, preparation or palaver for any of us.
Sadly Christmas has become too commercialised and far removed from the Christian Feast it is - even in shops the Christmas decorations and foods sit side by side with Halloween items while Easter seems to start for shops on Boxing Day! It's pitiful that people put themselves into debt trying to keep up with the commercial pressure.

rocketstop Thu 06-Nov-25 18:20:54

HelterSkelter1

Rocketstop. No it's a very pretty little village in Northamptonshire. The relative has had Christmas cards made of pictures of previous years windows and they are lovely.

Such a good idea and as a PP said above it makes for an exciting walk round the villaage for everyone not just the children.

How lovely.They do it in Saltaire too which is also a little village, and during lockdown but when we were allowed out ,spaced, it was really uplifting as people had also put messages in the windows like 'Things WILL get better' and 'Better times will come' alongside fab displays.

StripeyGran Thu 06-Nov-25 18:20:38

If your parade is so well set up tra la la la

I don't think a couple of daft comments on here will divert.

Allira Thu 06-Nov-25 18:11:37

Christmas is as commercial as you choose to have it. If you do not want a commercial Christmas you do not need to have one. Nobody is making you, nut I can see no reason to rain on other people'sparades.

Well said, M0nica

Have a quiet day
Have a riotous day
Go to church or not.
Go to help cook or serve meals for homeless people
Ignore it altogether

The options are endless.

Allira Thu 06-Nov-25 18:09:41

GrannyGravy13

We have done Christmas in Australia, France and Spain.

Always with the children and family, all different, special in their own way/customs, we still remember them with fondness as do our now AC

Christmas in July?

Allira Thu 06-Nov-25 18:09:19

Maybe its good just to dial it all down and meet up in the Spring time?

Well, it has been suggested by learned academics that Jesus Christ was actually born in May.

The weather would probably be better, good enough for a posh picnic!

HelterSkelter1 Thu 06-Nov-25 18:08:40

Rocketstop. No it's a very pretty little village in Northamptonshire. The relative has had Christmas cards made of pictures of previous years windows and they are lovely.

Such a good idea and as a PP said above it makes for an exciting walk round the villaage for everyone not just the children.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 06-Nov-25 18:04:18

We have done Christmas in Australia, France and Spain.

Always with the children and family, all different, special in their own way/customs, we still remember them with fondness as do our now AC

M0nica Thu 06-Nov-25 18:03:51

WithNobsOnIt

My father commeted in 1963. That he thought Chistmas had become far too commercialised.

I have stayed in other countues over the Christmas period and none of them go as mental as the UK.

Christmas would be much better if it was celebrated in the Summer.

I expect that the Normans said much the same about commercialisation of Christmas when they saw the Anglo-Saxons celebrating Christmas.

Cjristmas is the great winter festival based on the winter solstice when the nights have grown darker and darker and now the light is slowly returning. It was the astronomical fact of the depths of winter tha engendered the winter celebrations no matter what you call them. If you moved it to summer it would not be Cjristmas anymore. It would be a celebration of the longest day in the year and that days will now grow sshorter, profoundly different.

Christmas is as commercial as you choose to have it. If you do not want a commercial Christmas you do not need to have one. Nobody is making you, nut I can see no reason to rain on other people'sparades.

MartavTaurus Thu 06-Nov-25 17:55:52

Christmas can't be done abroad or in the spring.
How would we smell the log fires
The pine needles
The hot chocolate
The mulled wine.

gentleshores Thu 06-Nov-25 17:43:09

Surprised at people putting Christmas trees up early and leaving them till March! I can’t wait to take it down every year and get back to normal. Enjoy it when it’s up but it’s for Christmas - which is not that long a period. I’m also a bit superstitious about leaving it up after 12th night. The one year I did that and ignored it I the most horrendous things happen all year - I’m not normally superstitious!

With normally having a real tree we didn’t used to put it up until about 17th December anyway. This year with the fake one it’ll be up on 1st Dec probably but then it makes the whole Christmas thing feel so long. Personally I’d rather go on holiday somewhere sunny for a month!

WithNobsOnIt Thu 06-Nov-25 17:42:47

My father commeted in 1963. That he thought Chistmas had become far too commercialised.

I have stayed in other countues over the Christmas period and none of them go as mental as the UK.

Christmas would be much better if it was celebrated in the Summer.