The latest dog killing

It’s a big mistake to treat a dog as a baby or child, you can do that with a cat, but a dog, just no.
They will end up ruling the roost.A dog is a pack animal and if over indulged will think it’s the leader and that’s when owners send for the dog whisperer to try and halt its behaviour.

keepingquiet

murraymints65

I went to an out of town shopping centre last week, what puzzles me is people even take dogs to those places why ! Surely it can't be much fun for a dog. I would of thought it kinder to leave the dog at home plus it might be easier to go into shops and look at items without dragging a dog along .

I think what people are missing here is that dogs are now part of a commercial industry. There is a lot of money to be made out of their owners, who will spend their money on things dogs have never needed because they treat them like children.

You don't have to go far to see this commercialisation in cafes and public places as well as shopping centres.

There just isn't the will to stop this humanising of animals because humans have money to spend.

I have nothing against pets of any kind, but treating any of them like people is disrespectful to their nature.

Yes, there are some who think the life of a child means less than the life of their dog...

Are people humanising dogs because they do not have/do not want children?

Maybe so Monica but it’s wrong to try that with a dog.

Oreo

Advent calendars for dogs, are you serious?🫣😂

Yes😂. A chicken-based treat for every day of December - available in a supermarket near you.

We watch Antiques Roadshow and it amazes me how many people take their dogs with them. I've never known a dog show an interest in antiques but they are taken along to queue sometimes in boiling hot weather. Why?
When we had dogs (one at a time) they were quite happy to be left for 3 hours at a time.

I wonder if the owners of obviously aggressive, dangerous dogs are more likely to vote for a particular political party.

Dog owners will never be convinced that ANY dog can bite. Dogs also get jealous. Most of the dogs round my area are babyfied, they are not treated like the pack animals they are. Dogs have pack instincts, going Fido don't do that doesn't cut it. The dog needs an Alpha and it needs to know your the boss. My neighbour for many years had a Rottweiler, now I'm terrified of dogs but was never terrified of this one. My neighbour was the Alpha and that dog was extremely well trained. Not saying I went near it but never had problems. However, why people have dogs twice your own body weight I will never know, you have no chance if these dogs turn. I'm so very sorry about the baby, just terrible.

Monica, I hadn't thought of it like you say, yes your probably quite right lots of money to be made re dogs or any pet

Dogs are big business on the making money front.

I no longer walk my lab in areas I’ve enjoyed for fifty years. He’s my twelfth dog and the first one I’ve had a challenge training. He became reactive after several incidents with off lead dogs racing up “it’s ok they’re friendly”. No it isn’t ok. He’s passed kennel club obedience to Gold level. He’s a typical happy fruendjy lab with people, he loves our grandchildren, they love him but his life is more restricted than previous, or my other dog a spaniel.

Our large park is now used by commercial dog walkers, who open the van doors and allow 6 -8 dogs run free. My spaniel had Eight harassing her - she’s rock solid and ran to me when called. I asked the dog walkers to control their dogs 🙈. They’re charging £10 - 15 an hour. Then we have unqualified people setting up as trainers, or home boarders £50 or more an hour training, £50-60 a night boarding.

It’s an industry. Doodle dogs advent calendars 🐶. We have Christmas stocking and more on sale

Wanders off grumbling

Grantanow

I wonder if the owners of obviously aggressive, dangerous dogs are more likely to vote for a particular political party.

What a strange comment!

I agree that dog walkers should be licensed. I think they do have to be insured, although I’m sure some don’t bother.
Maybe dog walkers insurance companies could stipulate how many can be walked at a time.
When we dog sit our DCs dogs ( one at a time ) we avoid certain parks where the ‘packs’ are walked. Often we hire the dog fields for off lead time.

My friend has had dogs all her adult life and they have all been lovely animals, well trained affectionate and socialised. But……she never ever left them alone unsupervised with her grandchildren. Any dog can be unpredictable, especially with an enthusiastic toddler who may hug a bit too hard or pull an ear or tail.

The couple have been arrested.

It's absolutely tragic and there's nothing more to say until we hear more news.

eddiecat78

We watch Antiques Roadshow and it amazes me how many people take their dogs with them. I've never known a dog show an interest in antiques but they are taken along to queue sometimes in boiling hot weather. Why?
When we had dogs (one at a time) they were quite happy to be left for 3 hours at a time.

We used to run a small antiqque stall, selling only at fairs. As we usually had an outside stall one of our main occupations when not selling was watching all the dogs - and the trolleys they were being pushed in!!!!!!

In our new town location I find myself boggling at the number of dogs being pushed round in specialised dog pushchairs.

I can understand a disabled dog, lost a leg, or something like that but all these dogs seem perfectly fit and well. Some walk beside the owner while she (and it is invarably 'she' pushes the empty dog buggy.

Why not start a chatty thread about dogs, everyone?

This thread started as a news item about the tragic death of a defenceless baby, killed by what we now know is an XL Bully.
The parents have been arrested.

I can't tell people what to post, of course, but chatting about Christmas presents for pampered pets, dogs being walked in pushchairs etc etc is way off beam.

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BlueBelle

It has now been confirmed that the dog that killed that poor little 9 month old baby last week has been named as an XL bully
Something HAS to be done it’s not enough to have them muzzled when outside or castrated, as this case has illustrated The people who have these dogs so blithely believing they are gentle giants need prosecuting
Can you imagine that little baby being shaken like a rag doll by that beast of a dog which has now been killed No winners no baby, no dog all totally unnecessary
Something MUST be done Do you agree ?

To answer your question, Buebelle

Yes, something must be done, this happens and everyone wrings their hands but, whatever is done, there are always loopholes that people exploit.

Apparently the dog did have a licence but should all these dogs be euthanised? No matter the protests about how lovely and gentle they are, lovely family pets etc 🤔 we keep hearing of yet another tragedy.

Poor little baby did not stand a chance.

There are some extraordinary video clips that pop up on facebook of babies and small children with dogs all over them playing and licking their faces - I just wonder what the parents can be thinking? They obviously think it is cute and have the imagination of a gnat as to what could possibly happen.

Humans have off days, get angry or bad-tempered. Dogs are no different - any owner who tells you "he wouldn't hurt a fly" is talking out of their rear-end.

I cannot understand why anyone would put a dog over a baby ?

Babies and dogs - my grandson is 7 months old and my daughter's dog is a 3 yr old cockerpoo who is totally trustworthy with my grandson and very protective of him, It all depends on the breed of dog and how it's brought up as to whether it's reliable around babies and children.

Dog licences - these were abolished way back in 1988 because the licence fee of thrirty seven and a half pence - seven shillings and sixpence in old money - hadn't risen since the licence was introduced back in Vistorian times. It cost more to administer than it raised in revenue, which was the reason it was eventually abolished. If a dog licence fee was ever reintroduced it would need to be prohinitively expensive to make the cost of administration worthwhile and I can well imagine that many more dogs would be abandoined or PTS because the pownerws can't afford the licence fee, as I believe happened in Queen Victoria's time. And with the coinsequent increas in stray or abandined dogs as a result of a high licence fee there would be lots of otherwise healthy dogs (of any breed ) being PTS because the ownerws can't afford the licence.

I wouldn't trust any dog completely and would never leave one in a room with a baby or small child.

There is a syndrome called cocker rage which cockapoos may inherit from cocker spaniels.

Allira

There is a syndrome called cocker rage which cockapoos may inherit from cocker spaniels.

Indeed. Some former neighbours had a cockapoo and as we had lost our final dog and I love dogs, I used to have him at my house if they needed to go out for a day. He was as good as gold at mine.

He did have a nasty streak though despite looking adorably cuddly and cute. He bit the postman, was very aggressive to any visitors and even tried to bite me when I opened the gate to visit them yet he knew me really well.

I would never have trusted him with small children.

cobden28

Babies and dogs - my grandson is 7 months old and my daughter's dog is a 3 yr old cockerpoo who is totally trustworthy with my grandson and very protective of him, It all depends on the breed of dog and how it's brought up as to whether it's reliable around babies and children.

Dog licences - these were abolished way back in 1988 because the licence fee of thrirty seven and a half pence - seven shillings and sixpence in old money - hadn't risen since the licence was introduced back in Vistorian times. It cost more to administer than it raised in revenue, which was the reason it was eventually abolished. If a dog licence fee was ever reintroduced it would need to be prohinitively expensive to make the cost of administration worthwhile and I can well imagine that many more dogs would be abandoined or PTS because the pownerws can't afford the licence fee, as I believe happened in Queen Victoria's time. And with the coinsequent increas in stray or abandined dogs as a result of a high licence fee there would be lots of otherwise healthy dogs (of any breed ) being PTS because the ownerws can't afford the licence.

Google "cockerpoo child attacks"
I would be very worried if a dog showed protective tendencies towards a child.

Some can be adorable, lovely for a long while then suddenly turn, perhaps if someone startled them. Certainly babies do suddenly cry or wave their arms and legs around. I wouldn't leave any dog alone with a little child.

When I was a child my parents bought a golden spaniel home it took a dislike to my Nan (who was a dog lover) and it bit her arm the dog had to go we d only had him a short while Any dog can be dangerous but a bite from a cocker is not likely to be the same as a bite from a Bully or a cane corso
In my opinion these made up breeds HAVE to go as soon as possible
I have just read about a bad case in Australia recently of a breeder (I think) was set on and the paramedics couldn’t get near him so the dogs had to be shot I ll see if I can find the write up