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kircubbin2000 Thu 13-Nov-25 19:48:26

I've just seen the grandsons school leaflet for December. They are having a winter fair and a holiday celebration. No sign of Christmas!

Magenta8 Thu 13-Nov-25 19:51:33

Is it a secular multi faith school or is it denominational?

Grandmabatty Thu 13-Nov-25 19:58:04

I think they are being inclusive to other religions who presumably will be represented at the school. I like that

GrannyGravy13 Thu 13-Nov-25 20:10:31

Christmas is the December festival in the UK.

It can be inclusive by pointing out the ethnicity of the three wise men etc.

Next we will be wishing people Happy Holidays

Sago Thu 13-Nov-25 20:26:32

The usual majority bowing to the minority.

It’s CHRISTMAS, the birth of Christ.

Grandmadinosaur Thu 13-Nov-25 20:30:22

We shouldn’t be abandoning the celebration of our UK traditions.

If we went to live in another country or were visiting when they had festivities on we would join in and embrace them.

Skydancer Thu 13-Nov-25 21:56:55

Grandmadinosaur

We shouldn’t be abandoning the celebration of our UK traditions.

If we went to live in another country or were visiting when they had festivities on we would join in and embrace them.

Absolutely this!

Oreo Thu 13-Nov-25 22:17:41

Someone needs to tell the Head that other religions really don’t mind schools celebrating Christmas and they even join in many of the celebrations and enjoy them. Wokery seems to have got a solid toehold in many schools now.

rafichagran Thu 13-Nov-25 22:26:10

I can see no reason why we should not call it Christmas, people I know of different nationalities don't mind either.

I find it is is generally middle class, woke, do gooders who shout about inclusion. My partner is West Indian and he celebrates Christmas.

The more the merrier, when divali was celebrated, I have heard of parents who celebrate by sending in sweets for all children in their children's class in school.

I find the trend for not saying Christmas divisive, and gives those thugs who stand outside hotels draped in flags, being vile to immigrants housed there,an excuse to say shout the abuse they do.

kircubbin2000 Thu 13-Nov-25 22:32:04

It's a normal city primary school. The odd thing is they celebrated Eid not long ago.

Maggiemaybe Thu 13-Nov-25 22:38:37

The school where I worked had the most miserable Christmas once when we had a temporary head who decided that it wasn’t appropriate for our multicultural school. We had no celebrations, no decorations, no tree, the children’s invitations to sing carols, as they usually did, at our local supermarket and care home, were declined.

Maggiemaybe Thu 13-Nov-25 22:46:51

Whoops, posted too soon (fat fingers!).

Worst of all, no nativity - we had a dreadful under-rehearsed talent show instead. Our parents - all of them, Muslim, Christian, atheist - were up in arms, and complained, but to no avail. The most angry were the Reception parents who’d been looking forward to watching their children in the Nativity. None of the Muslim parents had ever withdrawn their children from Christmas festivities- they joined in everything.

The head was a middle-class committed Christian who was adamant that celebrations would have offended people of other religions. She couldn’t have been more wrong.

shysal Fri 14-Nov-25 09:52:11

I see nothing wrong with the inclusive wording. I am an agnostic and send 'Season's Greetings' cards.

Lathyrus3 Fri 14-Nov-25 10:02:26

Well as the Winter Fair, is presumably about buying, selling and making money, I’m ok with that not having anything to do with celebrating the birth of Jesus.

Holiday celebration. Not quite sure what that would consist of.

There should definitely be some teaching about the religious significance but I think I’d be glad not to see that muddled up with all the razamatzz.

StripeyGran Fri 14-Nov-25 10:04:24

Get yourself along there and be thankful you can enjoy yourself.

Buy something, laugh a little.

Go to Church later if you wish.

Homestead62 Fri 14-Nov-25 10:17:33

We celebrate Christmas here.

Granmarderby10 Fri 14-Nov-25 10:35:59

Oh! This crops up annually. None of the Muslim men and women or the quite a few of other none Christian or no religion make a stand about their respective religious festivals or beliefs and enter into the general spirit of festivity around Christmas and the build up.
We all by now know that Christmas hails from pre Christian paganism and sensibly in my opinion the Romans was it? who gradually allowed it to be incorporated into Christian culture.
Winter is a good time for pretty lights and foodie delights in cold counties isn’t it.

eazybee Fri 14-Nov-25 13:58:03

It will be someone posing, thinking they are showing how multi-cultural and diverse they are.
Shortly to be followed by letters to the papers requesting shops, (and gyms apparently), to be open on Christmas Day for the benefit of the non-Christians, obviously.

alita Fri 14-Nov-25 14:10:53

kircubbin2000

It's a normal city primary school. The odd thing is they celebrated Eid not long ago.

Three of my grandchildren go to infant/junior schools where Eid is celebrated. I think its quite common now.

StripeyGran Fri 14-Nov-25 14:11:10

eazybee

It will be someone posing, thinking they are showing how multi-cultural and diverse they are.
Shortly to be followed by letters to the papers requesting shops, (and gyms apparently), to be open on Christmas Day for the benefit of the non-Christians, obviously.

No it will be somebody thinking " I'm incredibly busy, how can I make this easy and fun for the staff and the children"

Our corner shop is open all day on Christmas. A few of us take bits and pieces to the staff to make their day a bit more pleasant,
Seems to work well.

lizzypopbottle Fri 14-Nov-25 14:19:31

Did the school celebrate (or even name) Diwali and Eid? If not, then celebrating Christmas might be seen as exclusionary. If they did...

WelshPoppy Fri 14-Nov-25 14:28:34

My granddaughter's class, mixed years 5 and 6, sing with other schools at our local cathedral in a Christmas celebration. Her Muslim friend is always first to sign up!

WithNobsOnIt Fri 14-Nov-25 14:35:44

There was a lot people in the Sixties who were almost apologetic with rage when Christmas started to be referred to as Xmas.

Looks like they saw the shape of things to come.

Wokeism is the only religion nowadays

StripeyGran Fri 14-Nov-25 14:41:26

It's the end of civilisation as we know it folks.

Emeraldforest Fri 14-Nov-25 15:15:54

I'm pretty sure everyone knows it's about Christmas, no need to be too enraged.