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kircubbin2000 Thu 13-Nov-25 19:48:26

I've just seen the grandsons school leaflet for December. They are having a winter fair and a holiday celebration. No sign of Christmas!

jocork Fri 14-Nov-25 18:42:30

I worked briefly in a Church of England primary school. There was a family whose Muslim girls were taken out of anything Christian and I did wonder why they didn't send the children to a different school. They were also the only children taken home for lunch. All the others either had school dinners or took a packed lunch. One of my duties was to escort these children to the front entrance to be picked up by their father.
After that I worked in an all girls secondary school. About 80% of the students were Muslim as their parents wanted them to attend a girls only school. At Eid we had to put classes together and do general activities as so many were absent we couldn't do any teaching of normal subjects. However we still celebrated Christmas.
In other schools I worked in some of the non-muslim students took the day off for Eid despite it counting as an unauthorised absence. They argued that it was only fair as the muslims still got Christmas holidays as well!
I was never aware of anyone being offended by celebrating the festivals of other religions.

2507C0 Fri 14-Nov-25 19:10:43

kircubbin2000

It's a normal city primary school. The odd thing is they celebrated Eid not long ago.

Then that makes it doubly bad. The head needs to get a grip.

StripeyGran Fri 14-Nov-25 19:17:25

GrannyGravy13

Christmas is the December festival in the UK.

It can be inclusive by pointing out the ethnicity of the three wise men etc.

Next we will be wishing people ^Happy Holidays^

As a humanist, how does that work then?

DrWatson Fri 14-Nov-25 19:37:27

Well Kircubbin, complain to the school, and the education authority. Copy in the local paper and TV station for local news too if you like.

This country does Christmas, like most of the 'western world' and a fair subset of other countries too. If folk want to come and live here, then they need to fit in. If they want this country to follow the traditions and beliefs of wherever they have come from, to the exclusion of our usual ones, then there's a simple and quite brief solution for them?

Usedtobeblonde Fri 14-Nov-25 19:37:42

Happy holidays?
Bah humbug.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Nov-25 19:47:19

Winter Fairs are a tradition in the U.K. that goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years. They celebrated the solstice and Yule, and later the Christian’s decided to grab the dates.
There were also frost fairs.
There is art work showing these fairs on the Thames.

I think we are being too precious over the naming of these fairs and markets.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 14-Nov-25 19:49:15

I would have thought that the children almost certainly enjoyed celebrating and learning about other cultures, especially if it meant fun and gifts!

Mojack26 Fri 14-Nov-25 19:57:38

Sick of all this pcness,you hear about Diwali nationally...personally that's fine if you celebrate it! I celebrate Christmas, Easter etc and it should be a Christmas Fair.... annoys me that people also say Happy Holidays!

PaperMonster2 Fri 14-Nov-25 20:08:47

Thanks for pointing that out Whitewavemark2 I was going to do the same thing, but it’ll probably go over their heads tbh.

Lathyrus3 Fri 14-Nov-25 20:15:03

Just have to point that Biblically we don’t know how many Magi there were, nor their ethnicity. The only thing we know is that they saw the star in the east and followed it. So presumably we’re from the west of Bethlehem.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 14-Nov-25 20:42:18

Whitewavemark2

Winter Fairs are a tradition in the U.K. that goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years. They celebrated the solstice and Yule, and later the Christian’s decided to grab the dates.
There were also frost fairs.
There is art work showing these fairs on the Thames.

I think we are being too precious over the naming of these fairs and markets.

I agree in part, but, the nativity has been an integral part of the end of term celebrations for many years.

Keep the nativity, include Diwali, Hanukkah and Eid celebrations in the curriculum.

Deedaa Fri 14-Nov-25 20:54:59

My grandson's grammar school has a large number of Asian boys. Every year they hold the Festival of Nine Lessons and Carols in the school chapel. with all the boys joining in the carols and the readings. The headmaster is ordained so there is no chance of Christmas being ignored.

I remember people sending cards that just said "Season's Greetings" when I was a child. I think it was thought to be more sophisticated than "Happy Christmas"

mulberry7 Fri 14-Nov-25 21:09:43

I believe that the X in Xmas comes from the Greek for Christos, Christ. However, talking about the Maji, where did the Holy Family carry the gold, frankincense and myrrh when they went to Egypt on a donkey? It's all a myth, and that is what we cele4brate in the Christmas story. Many children love it, with their delightful innocence. There are worse stories.

Stepgranonabroomstick Fri 14-Nov-25 22:21:26

Sago

The usual majority bowing to the minority.

It’s CHRISTMAS, the birth of Christ.

It was originally the celebration of the winter solstice which was taken by the early christians.

LadyBridgerton Fri 14-Nov-25 22:42:26

StripeyGran

It's the end of civilisation as we know it folks.

Sacking as all other religion's festivities are renamed, no Divali, Eid, Ramadan etc but I don't see that happening.
I once worked in a school with a Head of Modern Languages who was a Kenyan Asian, at this time of the year he was given Christmas cards, some pupils asked him about his Christmas time and he was happy to engage, saying how his children insisted on presents etc. He had no problem with Christmas.