Burlesque? Am I just out of touch?

WI?!
Sounds like a load of tripe, what woman wants to watch that?

Choicey choice feminism ( everything is empowering), not for me.

I think I’ve always had a quite pragmatic ( and enthusiastic) approach to sex.

I’ve never really needed titillating. So stuff like burlesque does nothing fir me,

I struggle with this new wave version of feminism too.

I have a friend whose daughter took up pole dancing as a way of "celebrating her femininity." I am not saying that it is rubbish just that I don't get it.

If anyone on GN can explain how this squares with feminism I would be grateful.

It doesn't. It is nonsense.

Hope that helps

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Sorry magnets I just think it us absolute nonsense and not feminism. I have just googled the performer mentioned ( I probably wouldn't advise it), no surprise that there are links to other unpleasantness.

Magenta even. It is too early in the morning for this discussion!

My DD took up Burlesque as a hobby. She says she loves the dressing up, the performing and the sense of fun. There is a lot of comedy in Burlesque. We went to her shows and thoroughly enjoyed them.
She also did pole exercise for a while and that is a major workout!!
Btw she is also an ardent feminist and believes in everyone making their own choices!

Cannot be bothered with any of it. I think it's a fine line between 'art' and the usual titillation for men.

Surely women are allowed to choose what they want to do and be.

Just as you are allowed to choose not to attend.

They are indeed, just as I am allowed to choose to say that isn't feminism.

Is all down to someone’s likes or dislikes
Have never seen Burlesque and am not too bothered about seeing it, but I know women who do like it as the women at the WI did.
Horses for courses.

Thanks for the replies, many of you seem to feel as I did which is a relief!
The idea that it's all about choice and that there is no subtext ... well, at the very least, I find it disturbing that young women are encouraged to think that being deliberately overweight is ok (because of the health aspect later on and I know that controlling weight can be hard) and also with the spread of hardcore porn and the laissez faire attitude to choking as a normal part of sex. It makes me uncomfortable.

It is a very long way from Burlesque to choking during sex for heightened pleasure, why bring that into the discussion?

There appear yo be links to that with this performer, or to dominatrix stuff anyway.

Also the same excuses for all of it are given, 'but it is a choice'.

Burlesque has been around for years and years - not my cup of tea personally, but I know women who enjoy it. Not entirely sure what the link is between it and encouraging women to be overweight, as Granatlast007 seems to be inferring.

Whatever happened to The Chippendales?

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I don't get the "empowering" bit. A bit of fun if that's what you want to do. An enrgetic work out if you like pole dancing. It is like saying having a tattoo is empowering. Can't see that at all.
I suppose OP you could feel empowered by not going to the meeting. Did the WI members dress up as well?
My ideal of female empowerment was the work of the Air Auxiliary women in WW2 who flew all types of aircraft with little preparation and just a book of instructions. I would rather have listened to them than watch a burlesque performer. Still horses for courses.

My ideal of female empowerment was the work of the Air Auxiliary women in WW2 who flew all types of aircraft with little preparation and just a book of instructions. I would rather have listened to them than watch a burlesque performer.

HelterSkelter Well said.

Whatever floats your boat I suppose.

I couldn’t think of a more boring past time.

It wouldn't interest me, I've never liked the idea of people taking their clothes off for entertainment, usually its women, but I wouldn't want to see men disrobing either. I know Burlesque is supposed to be a tasteful/acceptablel version of striptease, if women engage willingly fair enough! I don't relate that to empowerment, what a load of rubbish. Personally I hated the proliferation of lap dancing clubs, there used to be one near where I lived close to a well known rugby ground. It's the objectification aspect I find so vile. Thankfully through the efforts of the local community it was closed down because of raucous behaviour sited in a residential area, near high street and schools not great. Good riddance.