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Aveline Thu 05-Feb-26 08:13:18

I suppose it's because the media loves and feeds on a good scandal that all eyes are on the Epstein files. Dirty deeds by wealthy high profile people. However, to my mind it's the hushed up scandals regarding Muslim men, in large numbers, grooming and desperately abusing young vulnerable girls that's a more important story. It's not new. It's widespread and it's just overlooked in favour of focussing on the behaviour of the rich shiny people in high places.
I'm furious that the plight of these poor working class girls is just not a good enough story to really highlight or actually do something about.

Mrsluckhurst Thu 05-Feb-26 09:00:30

I totally agree with you, Aveline, so many victims. If it wasn't for Maggie Oliver I don't suppose we'd even know as much as we do. So much covering up, those poor vunerable children.

Whingey Thu 05-Feb-26 09:52:39

Nobody was ever accountable for it!If I hear one more there are lessons to be learned I will bang my head against the wall!

Sago Thu 05-Feb-26 10:19:27

The media loves anything that will take the focus away from such stories.

All in the name of social cohesion.

I tend not to post on these threads as it ends up in a ridiculous slanging match.

Under the Freedom of Information it has been asked what is the breakdown of sexual crime in the UK by ethnicity.

The answer is that these figures are not available and that it is only the ethnicity of the victims that is recorded.🤔.

I have written to ask my MP why.

I am still awaiting a reply.

Aveline Thu 05-Feb-26 10:34:50

Let us know when you get a response Sago

Sago Thu 05-Feb-26 10:39:50

I will, I’m not holding my breath!

Mrsluckhurst Thu 05-Feb-26 13:05:28

That's shocking, sago. Just watched Starmer apologising to Epsteins victims ( quite rightly) but I can't recall (I might be wrong here) him apologising publically to the grooming gangs victims.

Aveline Thu 05-Feb-26 14:21:35

I doubt all the women involved in Epstein's arrangements were victims. That Russian woman who flew over for Andrew MW was 26. Quite able to be a consenting adult in business for herself.

Fallingstar Thu 05-Feb-26 14:31:38

I believe that in the beginning Epstein used Ghislaine to scout out local schools to look for victims, targeting those who looked uncared for or alone. They don’t call him a pedophile for nothing.
Also older women can be groomed, coerced, and trafficked. I read that Ghislaine took the women’s passports away. There is no age at which a woman ceases to become a potential victim.
Also I seriously hope that police forces don’t just drop cases of girls being groomed by gangs in the UK because something else is in the headlines, I doubt that is how they operate, and I doubt that is how those in government addressing this operate either.
But those on here showing concern can raise the issue with their MP. I do this when dissatisfied with the response to a burning political issue.
Epstein is presently in the news because his nefarious activities have had repercussions for governments both sides of the pond, and I for one think it is imperative we know just how high the rot has gone.

theworriedwell Thu 05-Feb-26 14:43:05

Fallingstar

I believe that in the beginning Epstein used Ghislaine to scout out local schools to look for victims, targeting those who looked uncared for or alone. They don’t call him a pedophile for nothing.
Also older women can be groomed, coerced, and trafficked. I read that Ghislaine took the women’s passports away. There is no age at which a woman ceases to become a potential victim.
Also I seriously hope that police forces don’t just drop cases of girls being groomed by gangs in the UK because something else is in the headlines, I doubt that is how they operate, and I doubt that is how those in government addressing this operate either.
But those on here showing concern can raise the issue with their MP. I do this when dissatisfied with the response to a burning political issue.
Epstein is presently in the news because his nefarious activities have had repercussions for governments both sides of the pond, and I for one think it is imperative we know just how high the rot has gone.

The Russian woman must have had her passport to travel to UK.

Is she the same Russian woman who sent Epstein an email saying what a great night she had?

Fallingstar Thu 05-Feb-26 14:51:32

I have no idea who the Russian woman is but most of the women travelled abroad, usually with Ghislaine who had control of their passports.

Oreo Thu 05-Feb-26 15:14:33

Aveline

I suppose it's because the media loves and feeds on a good scandal that all eyes are on the Epstein files. Dirty deeds by wealthy high profile people. However, to my mind it's the hushed up scandals regarding Muslim men, in large numbers, grooming and desperately abusing young vulnerable girls that's a more important story. It's not new. It's widespread and it's just overlooked in favour of focussing on the behaviour of the rich shiny people in high places.
I'm furious that the plight of these poor working class girls is just not a good enough story to really highlight or actually do something about.

It’s one of those things that everyone knows about now but something the government wishes would go away so they don’t have to face it, they’re terrified of losing votes in areas of high ethnicity. It’s the worse scandal in the UK in modern times in my view.

Sago Thu 05-Feb-26 16:22:57

Oreo

Aveline

I suppose it's because the media loves and feeds on a good scandal that all eyes are on the Epstein files. Dirty deeds by wealthy high profile people. However, to my mind it's the hushed up scandals regarding Muslim men, in large numbers, grooming and desperately abusing young vulnerable girls that's a more important story. It's not new. It's widespread and it's just overlooked in favour of focussing on the behaviour of the rich shiny people in high places.
I'm furious that the plight of these poor working class girls is just not a good enough story to really highlight or actually do something about.

It’s one of those things that everyone knows about now but something the government wishes would go away so they don’t have to face it, they’re terrified of losing votes in areas of high ethnicity. It’s the worse scandal in the UK in modern times in my view.

Exactly this👏👏👏👏👏

Whingey Tue 10-Feb-26 18:47:12

No it's not new.In 1970 I went to Valentines park aged 15 and a middle aged man with a young boy touched me up and asked me to meet him next week to see his sister's baby.Fuck knows what would have happened if I had gone 😭

Aveline Tue 10-Feb-26 21:06:06

At least that Afghan boat person who raped the 12 year old was actually on the news today and not ignored for purposes of not offending ethnic sensitivities.

keepingquiet Tue 10-Feb-26 21:18:15

The grooming of minors by sexual predators is not a racial or religious issue.

Aveline Tue 10-Feb-26 21:24:52

So why hush up all the Muslim grooming gangs for so long?

keepingquiet Wed 11-Feb-26 08:51:46

Why hush up anything corrupt and illegal? Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris, Jeffrey Epstein?

I suspect the reason is to do with money, not religion.

Oreo Wed 11-Feb-26 09:24:40

Whingey

No it's not new.In 1970 I went to Valentines park aged 15 and a middle aged man with a young boy touched me up and asked me to meet him next week to see his sister's baby.Fuck knows what would have happened if I had gone 😭

That was an individual creepy chancer tho, not a whole grooming gang.
You were unlucky as the only things I met in Valentines Park
( Ilford) were very tame squirrels.

Oreo Wed 11-Feb-26 09:27:09

I think the answer Aveline lies solely with ethnicity, as nobody wanted to be accused of being racist🤬
Why they should continue to want to bury it can only be fear of losing votes.It’s a total disgrace.

Casdon Wed 11-Feb-26 09:35:13

I don’t think there are skewed priorities between the Epstein scandal and grooming gangs. One of them is a worldwide network involving powerful people, and not only related to sexual attacks, and one is a UK issue. The big difference between them is that the Epstein implications have far greater political and economic consequences for the UK and the rest of the (mainly) Western world. Most of us are capable of considering multiple issues at the same time, and concentrating on one issue does not mean that we, or politicians, are not also concentrating on another.

Oreo Wed 11-Feb-26 09:37:58

As long as they are concentrating on the grooming gangs of course.

Primrose53 Wed 11-Feb-26 09:51:19

This was last week and a massively brave Abbie Johnson spoke out about her ordeal of being sexually assaulted by an Iranian who came here illegally.

For once, the judge did a great job and didn’t fall for any of the usual old rubbish that this dangerous predator’s lawyer tried to make him believe to get let off.

It’s quite a long report so keep scrolling. Well done Abbie.

www.gbnews.com/news/patrick-christys-goes-inside-courtroom-as-victim-of-iranian-sex-attacker-tells-gb-news-i-have-my-freedom

Aveline Wed 11-Feb-26 10:04:57

Re the possibility of keeping more than one story at the same time. My concern is that the mainstream media have constantly overlooked the grooming gangs and their appalling record but are having a lovely time following the Epstein story.

Casdon Wed 11-Feb-26 10:16:14

He was not as far as reported pat of a grooming gang Primrose53, there are rape cases carried out by individuals every day which are reported?

For anybody who wants to know exactly what is happening with the grooming gangs inquiry (AI search):

Key Developments (Dec 2025 – Feb 2026)

Chair and Panel Appointment: On December 9, 2025, Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood appointed Baroness Anne Longfield to chair the inquiry, supported by panellists Zoe Billingham and Eleanor Kelly.

Draft Terms of Reference: Draft terms were published in December 2025, outlining a three-year inquiry with a £65m budget, focusing on "systemic failures".

Scope and Focus: The inquiry is set to explicitly examine the backgrounds of offenders, including ethnicity and religion, and investigate whether authorities failed to act due to fears regarding community cohesion.

Police Investigation (Operation Beaconport): Parallel to the inquiry, the National Crime Agency (NCA) has launched Operation Beaconport, which is reviewing previously closed cases and has already flagged more than 1,200 cases for potential reinvestigation.

Survivor Concerns & Recent Controversy: Following the resignation of several members of the survivors' liaison panel in late 2025, the new leadership is working to rebuild trust.

Allegations of Police Involvement: In February 2026, claims were raised regarding a grooming victim being abused by a serving South Yorkshire Police officer, with the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) involved.

Legal Action & Data Concerns: Concerns have been raised by MPs and activists regarding the potential destruction of court records (CourtsDesk system), which some fear could hinder the inquiry.

Scottish Review: A separate 18-month review of evidence on grooming gangs in Scotland was announced in February 2026, stopping short of a full statutory inquiry at this stage.

The politicians are not resting on their laurels, but there is obviously a communication issue if people aren’t aware of what is happening.