The Met never cease to amaze

Galaxy

Oh come on we have all done it. I left my guns in Tesco the other day. I had such a giggle with the security when I went back to retrieve them.

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I expect. "Lessons will be learned". Although I would have thought dont leave firearms lying around would be top of their Not To Do list.
Cressida Dick must be relieved this didn't happen on her watch.

keepingquiet

Where is the source for this?

BBC TV news this morning, in which they included a statement from the Met which confirmed where its officers left a bag of weapons .

AGAA4

Were they deliberately left? Or a mistake. Appalling either way but I'd prefer some more facts before judging.

I think it is bad enough THAT they were left- whether incompetence (likely) or deliberately (surely not?) is almost immaterial.
Talk about The Thin Blue Line- you couldn’t make it up.
I don’t know which scares me most- institutional misogyny, institutional racism or institutional incompetence .
But we seem to find all three all too often.

The report I read said that the revolver was fitted with 10 rounds. I don't know whether this meant it was capable of having 10 rounds or was actually loaded. I find it shocking that this has happened and think that it was obviously incompetence rather than anything else. Whatever happened to the discipline and competence within the police force? I know when I have had to make a statement to them for me to sign, I have been flabbergasted by the way they have worded what I said. On one of them I had to make a stand and refuse to sign it if they didn't change it. I shouldn't have bothered because even with video evidence it didn't get to court but I was worried that any decent defence lawyer would tear apart an inaccurate statement. The police seemed less worried!

Wyllow3

Initially, the Sun and the Telegraph.

Later confirmed in less dramatic terms, it was apparently for 7 minutes before a member of the public found it, investigation underway etc etc 5 police suspended while investigated.

Here is the BBC with a reasonable report of the facts

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjd8y33ze08o

obvs serious and never to have happened, appalling errorbut not as far as I'm concerned meriting the kind of shock horror headlines until we actually know more details.

You misread. When police received a call from a man reporting a bag of guns he'd found on the street, they attended in 7 minutes.

No indication how long it had been left in the street, nor how long the finder had it before he decided to call the police.

He said it was very heavy. So heavy he thought it might be coins. He took it home and up to his bedroom where he opened it .

If I found a very heavy bag lying in the street, I'd take a look inside, before taking it home and up to my bedroom.

keepingquiet

Allira

Of course it's not shocking. I'm sure it happens frequently. 🤔 We mustn't sensationalise the fact that a sub-machine gun, a Glock pistol, taser plus ammunition was left lying around for anyone to pick up. It's those newspapers, innit, making something out of nothing.
🤔

It is shocking- no one with any sense of social responsibilty wouldn't be shocked at yet more evidence that the met are corrupt.

No need for sarcasm.

I think the debacle is ripe for sarcasm.
We are renowned all over the world for our sarcasm.

Sarcasm of the humorous kind used by Allira is a necessary part of an incident like this.
It doesn’t diminish the significance, or minimise the dangers involved.

I don’t know about lessons learned or disciplinary action, might be P45’s and no pension

MaizieD

^It is shocking- no one with any sense of social responsibility wouldn't be shocked at yet more evidence that the met are corrupt.^

Corrupt or worryingly incompetent?

I suspect both.

I've ceased to be shocked by the Met after Sarah Everard. I almost expect the next trouble they cause.
Corruption in the Met has been known about in other police forces since I was a young woman so nothing new. It just gets worse.
It really needs to be split up into smaller areas.

AGAA4 my dad was seconded a number of times from Lancashire. He said the met was corrupt. This was in the sixties and seventies

Criminal carelessness; I believe ammunition was included.

Meriting shock-horror headlines.

Cossy

I read this story, it was completely irresponsible.

Hope people are disciplined and a lot more careful moving forward

Which part of the story is irresponsible?

Which people should be disciplined? The police officers, the person who found the item, the general public "moving forward"?

I read this in today’s DT.

It’s astonishing!

If my husband left a firearm unattended he could face a prison sentence and quite rightly.

I think jobs will be lost.

Iam64

Sarcasm of the humorous kind used by Allira is a necessary part of an incident like this.
It doesn’t diminish the significance, or minimise the dangers involved.

I don’t know about lessons learned or disciplinary action, might be P45’s and no pension

Thanks, Iam64 and petra

I really should stop watching HIGNFY!!
It puts ideas into my head. 😁

However, I think Galaxy deserves the prize so far on this thread!
😂

Galaxy 😂

Khan insists that London is so safe why does he need armed police to protect him?

Because significant individuals especially politicians get frequent personal threats to their lives and have done for some time that others do not.

Wyllow3

Because significant individuals especially politicians get frequent personal threats to their lives and have done for some time that others do not.

Boris used to ride round London on a bike! 😉

We live just a few miles from where John Major lived so are well aware of protection measures. Likewise the former Governor of the Bank of England. He just had a solitary police car parked outside his house often with a sleeping policeman inside. 🤣

Matters as regards threats have subsequently escalated a great deal. Women politicians getting rape threats as well as death.

wish we could go back to the days of the sleeping policeman being enough.

Our own MP has had to move her office as it's not in a "protectable" place. She's one of the good eggs as regards helping people.

Primrose53

Wyllow3

Because significant individuals especially politicians get frequent personal threats to their lives and have done for some time that others do not.

Boris used to ride round London on a bike! 😉

We live just a few miles from where John Major lived so are well aware of protection measures. Likewise the former Governor of the Bank of England. He just had a solitary police car parked outside his house often with a sleeping policeman inside. 🤣

Boris who?

Khan receives death threats on an almost daily basis.

How could any member of the police force ‘forget’ weapons? Surely they check them in and out at the station as would be normal practice here ? I don’t get it at all. Was it deliberate or what ?

Cossy

Galaxy

Oh come on we have all done it. I left my guns in Tesco the other day. I had such a giggle with the security when I went back to retrieve them.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You can buy a special holster from e-bay for the Gloke Galaxy and the other weapons should fit nicely in your shopping trolley. I find Tesco give me lots of free stuff when I show mine.

Seriously, I thought it was a joke at first. I find it very sad that so many people need protection now.

As usual, this all seems rather odd.

The sheer quantity of weapons and officers to protect one man. Surely a discreet small gun hidden on an officer would suffice.
Also, who would drag a heavy bag home to their bedroom before opening?