Halal and Kosher meat should labelling be mandatory?

Yes, ordinarygirl.

Frankly I think it should be banned. It’s horrendously cruel and I speak as a farmer’s daughter so nit faint hearted

I'm feeling quite shocked and ashamed that I didn't know this before.
There is a good farm shop in this town, expensive, but from now on I'll go there and have meat as an occasional treat rather than eat meat that hasn't been humanely slaughtered. DS and DiL have been vegan for years and I'm very used to cooking for them.

Indeed. There is no reason why anybody should be aware of the technical term from a foreign language to describe anything.

Personally I do not think those slaughter methods should be legal in this country. They are barbaric. End of.

Halal slaughter should be banned, like it is in Denmark. Why should we have to pander to a minority who decided to come and live in our country?! I don't eat red meat and haven't for years. And that is what started it off for me.

I live in Manchester and it is on all restaurant menus now…as soon as I see it we leave.

Sago

“Use the right term next time”

butterandjam Who do you think you are speaking to posters in such a way?

I expect it is someone who feels so deeply that they forgot their manners, just for a moment. It's not an excuse but, just maybe, excusable. I am sad that some people have used what I believe was a genuine question to take pot shots at meat eaters!

paddyann54

2507CO
Kosher meat has been available for over a century,it’s not new and has not been an issue.Its only since people became aware that Muslims use a similar method it has become a problem…funny that!
As posted above there are no slaughterhouses in Scotland that kill without stunning first .

Or maybe because yet another small, shouty group of people made us aware of the fact ... funny that!

paddyann54 Well it is appalling and cruel. Maybe people didn't realise what it entailed regarding kosher before.

2507C0 I totally agree with you. It wouldn't happen in reverse if we were in their countries! We are being taken for mugs and about time it stopped.

paddyann54

2507CO
Kosher meat has been available for over a century,it’s not new and has not been an issue.Its only since people became aware that Muslims use a similar method it has become a problem…funny that!
As posted above there are no slaughterhouses in Scotland that kill without stunning first .

As you well know Kosher meat was only available for the longest time from Kosher butchers, it was not in every supermarket so most people never encountered it.
Stunning that is 'reversible' is not true stunning. You look for anti Muslim prejudice at every opportunity (even where it doesn't exist) but don't seem at all concerned about anti-semitism.....funny that!

Is it just the method of slaughter and place of rearing that gransnetters want to know about, or might they also want to know how much grazing land (if any) the livestock and chickens had enjoyed in their lives, how much exercise the little chickens had for their little (and beautiful) legs, and whether they could even flap their wings. Of course I hate the idea of certain slaughter methods but even if they're 'humane' animals know if they're being transported to their death, it's an instinct and they become anxious and this translates to physical changes. Not eating meat or poultry is the answer, and there are plenty of other protein sources.

What about fish and other sea food sources GoldenAge would you also advocate against their consumption? Not 'getting at' you, honestly interested.

Horrible practice and yes,it should be banned. It won’t be ,though,because it would not be politically correct

nanna8

Horrible practice and yes,it should be banned. It won’t be ,though,because it would not be politically correct

I think it would be regarded as anti-Semitic and anti-Moslem. I can’t imagine that any Government of any colour would attempt this.

Not at all Rosie51 just pointing out that there was no outcry about this form of slaughter until it concerned Muslims.
I have always been aware of kosher food and rituals my mothers best friend from childhood until she died was Jewish
We ate foods of Jewish origin …it was just accepted as it was.
I have Muslim friends and I can’t see why all of a sudden it has become a huge issue.
If it’s to be banned it must be for both…I don’t believe in any god but I respect my friends right to follow there faith even when some aspects I don’t agree with.

Oh and I don’t eat meat and haven,t eaten any fowl since I was very young.

Cossy

ExDancer

I'm sure I read somewhere that all meat used in state school kitchens is now kosher slaughtered. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

I’m pretty sure that this isn’t true, as most schools will be governed by the rules of either their local authority or their academy trust.

Some schools have meals supplied ready cooked, lots still maintain their own kitchen staff and chefs or cooks.

I would imagine that companies that prepare this food just say that the meat is kosher/halal to get the gig.

Makes it easy to deal with all groups and all persuasions. And how would anyone know otherwise?

No matter the rights and wrongs, and some are big wrongs, consumers have had long battles over accurate food labelling.
We should be told exactly what it is we are buying.

People who get enraged at the existence of Halal and Kosher meat are, in my opinion, focusing on a single moment in a farm animal's life rather than concentrating on the misery of their lives as a whole.

I have heard farmers referring to their animals as "the product" - seemingly unconcerned that such "product" is a living creature that experiences pain and fear. The huge demand for meat has created an industrial system of production which is completely inhumane. I think people should pay more attention to that than getting outraged about the method of killing.

I think there should be NO meat anywhere in the UK that is not from humanely slaughtered animals. That is the British way. If people living in this country don't want to conform to our way of life this is obviously not the right Country for them.

Yes I think that all meat should be labelled to indicate how it was slaughtered .
I stopped buying chilckens because the animals looked as though they had suffered whilst being slaughtered.
Apparently,88% of Halal meat is pre-stunned.
Kosher meat cannot be stunned according to Jewish dietary laws .
My Jewish neighbours no longer can afford the expense of Kosher meat due the expense -a great deal of it cannot be eaten .

I wrote to all the main supermarkets about 10 years ago asking if their meat was halal. I think lamb was the main issue. The general consensus was that New Zealand lamb may have been blessed to Allah, but not British lamb. I said I didn't want my meat blessed so I won't be buying it.

At the end of the day how are any of us going to know what we're eating? You can only go by what they tell you.

Unfortunately I don't think it would be possible to ban all halal or kosher food, there would be civil war. I think there should only be specific shops or smaller supermarkets selling halal or kosher, but failing that the meat should be clearly marked if it is one or the other. We all want to know what we're eating.

I agree the best way is to use a local butcher or farm shop, failing that buy British lamb and ask the supermarket about slaughtering methods. I think supermarkets vary according to the area, but it is a very grey area which needs a lot more clarity.

Eleothan, yes, that is true.
But hopefully the less cruel method should be advocated.