The land is dry, and the people are ...stupid?

fancyflowers

And about barbecues, I was also shocked by the responses from people demanding their 'right' to have barbecues on their own property.

... yes, it's typical of the "It's-My-Right" groupies who migrate towards each other to share their victimhood status inflicted on them by the "nanny-state".

Some of them might also be those that joined in the secret illegal raves and underground parties in remote outdoor locations and vacant spaces during the Covid-19 Lockdown when clubs, pubs, and music venues were shut down to stop the virus from spreading. And not infrequently left all their debris scattered around for members of the 'nanny-state' to clear up after they'd left.

Because it's all about them isn't it.

I have nothing but utter contempt for such individuals.

Whoa!
We do have a right to a barbecue on our own property and take precautions that all will be safe.
It’s wild camping or barbecues in the park that are the danger and those arsonists who regularly set fire to things for the hell of it every year.

GrannyGravy13

BBQ’s in gardens are safe as long as they are not against a fence or close to shrubbery.

I am amazed at all of the bad BBQ food that posters have experienced. As for juggling most people have outside tables and chairs nowadays.

We use our gas BBQ whenever we can, as do our AC is theirs, never have I had a charred sausage or undercooked chicken leg I have had succulent fish, prawns, lobster, kebabs, homemade burgers and all sorts of vegetables…

Yum😋

I have never been to a BBQ in my life. Its not something that attracts me.

Its exactly the same as when covid hit us people were told not to travel. What did they do exactly that travelled to beauty spots and coastlines. Left their rubbish and used anywhere to go the toilet as they were all closed.
Now it's repeated behaviour from selfish ignorant people who only care about themselves and what they want. Without a care in the world for anyone else.

Oreo

Whoa!
We do have a right to a barbecue on our own property and take precautions that all will be safe.
It’s wild camping or barbecues in the park that are the danger and those arsonists who regularly set fire to things for the hell of it every year.

Look Oreo - I'm not suggesting that you or yours are irresponsible and don't know how to safely BBQ, but if the Fire Brigades are asking that people just please - don't... do you really feel hard-done by? They have to make a blanket appeal for obvious reasons.

I m being black and white over this I believe the state we are in, countrywide, there should be NO bbqs at all, full stop, of course we can live happily without them, they are far from a necessity and can be a danger however careful you think you are.

I have a yard not a garden and can safely barbecue at any time, but even with a garden if you grill on the patio it can be done safely.
In all the years we have barbecued and all the many we have attended there have been zero issues.

They are making a blanket appeal as you say, but those of us who know they can be done completely safely will make our own minds up.

BlueBelle

I m being black and white over this I believe the state we are in, countrywide, there should be NO bbqs at all, full stop, of course we can live happily without them, they are far from a necessity and can be a danger however careful you think you are.

There is a total ban on the sale of disposable BBQ’s.

There is a ban on BBQ’s in parks, and fields etc., our council banned all open fire in its parks etc., at the beginning of July.

There is not a ban on BBQ’ing in one’s garden.

Dickens

Oreo

Whoa!
We do have a right to a barbecue on our own property and take precautions that all will be safe.
It’s wild camping or barbecues in the park that are the danger and those arsonists who regularly set fire to things for the hell of it every year.

Look Oreo - I'm not suggesting that you or yours are irresponsible and don't know how to safely BBQ, but if the Fire Brigades are asking that people just please - don't... do you really feel hard-done by? They have to make a blanket appeal for obvious reasons.

Hear, hear.
These fires are not just on open heathland or in deep forests.
Look at Stourbridge at the weekend, sparks can easily be blown to other gardens with trees or bushes.
Just dont is the only sensible thing.

There will always be those who want to exercise their freedom from collective responsibility.

Oreo

Whoa!
We do have a right to a barbecue on our own property and take precautions that all will be safe.
It’s wild camping or barbecues in the park that are the danger and those arsonists who regularly set fire to things for the hell of it every year.

Yes of course you have the right to have a barbecue. But given the current situation, surely you wouldn't think about actually doing it? Just do the cooking in the kitchen and sit on the patio to eat it. You can still have an outdoor party.

We had a nearly catastrophic accident on the other side of my. City this weekend. Neighbours say a family of illegal immigrants (I can’t confirm this) recently moved into a house, they didn’t appear to cook using the cooker inside the house and built a fire pit in the garden and were using that. Complaints by neighbours were not understood or ignored as family did not speak English and complaints to local councillor fell on deaf ears.
The fire got out of control on Saturday and spread to all the gardens along the terrace, fortunately the fire brigade stopped it reaching the houses.
Last night a near riot happened in the street with dozens of people congregating to protest about this family, I understand it turned quite nasty. I have seen pictures of ambulances aswell as police cars.
I will be so glad when we get lots of rain!

personally I think BBQs are all about what the owner wants and there is no consideration for neighbours. Who really wants to smell burning flesh ? I always think it must be similar to the smell that people coming from concentration camps during WW2 . We all seem to accept that smoking should be banned as the smell is awful so why is there a need to cook outside and infiltrate all of the neighbouring houses ?

Instead of banning disposable bbqs just stop selling anything that can cause a fire (eg matches lighters etc) to stupid inconsiderate people.
I have a brick built barbecue in my garden an and frequently have a disposable bbq.

Because I am not stupid there is no chance that it will cause a fire.

Maybe just ban stupid people who think lighting a disposable bbq in public areas is ok

Remember that stupid people do not realise they are stupid

Found this quote online which I think sums it up perfectly

When you're dead, you don't know you're dead.
The pain is felt by others.
The same thing happens when you're stupid.

Chinese lanterns release form a local beauty spot.

We have a problem here (Sefton Park/Otterspool Promenade - Liverpool)
With people whose cultures encourage cooking outside - bbqs/fire pits - all well and good until they tip out the smouldering embers onto grass -
Parts of Sefton park were ablaze last week due to this habit
👍☘️

Where my son lives there is a rough bit of land on one side of the road owned by a neighbour. When I was visiting earlier this year I went out to get something from my car during the evening and found some young kids lighting a fire there.When I stared at them they said "It's ok, we'll put it out." I asked if they thought it was a sensible place to light a fire?" and they ran off! Their argument that the landowner sometimes burnt rubbish there was irrelevant - it was his land - but I can't help wondering what might have happened if I hadn't gone outside when I did!
I found some wood nearby and beat out the flames and the landowner came out and poured a watering can full of water over the remains and removed the unburnt pallette and returned it to where they had taken it from. They were quite young kids and clearly clueless of the danger. I think the elderly landowner had been watching and was scared to intervene but he seemed relieved that I'd effectively chased them away. At the time things weren't as dry as they are now but if they did that now it could have terrifying consequences!

Personally I am relieved to hear talk of a ban on barbecues, not only because of the fire risk, but because I find them a huge faff. My husband is a big fan, and my heart sinks when he suggests having a barbecue. He invariably wants to get far too much food for the pair of us, and then there is all the mess to clear up afterwards. Ban away, I say!

Party pooper

Gango

Party pooper

That’s a really intelligent remark in the present circumstances.

That last post wasn’t about fire risk. It was from someone who doesn’t like bbqs. Hence the party pooper remark since her husband seems to love them.
So separate the very serious issue of people using disposable bbqs in places that would create a fire risk and someone cooking meat in their back garden.
If bookwormbabe doesn’t like BBQs then a quick conversation with her hubby should resolve it

Ok...i think your excuses are a bit week..Im sorry but you are grasping at straws....