The Daily Mail - the great divide

Many years ago at Uni I went on one of the round robin interviews, called the milk round, when all the big companies came to interview students for jobs. I remember talking to one newspaper and asking about writing articles for their audience - you wouldn’t expect to write the same for the Daily Star as for The Times for instance. The vocabulary range, style of writing and political slant would surely be different. I was told that was not the case. They are so blatantly different I’ve never really trusted a newspaper since. These days I read snippets online.

I suppose it is hard for some to understand that the country you grew up in and still contains family members is still important to you .
I just remember you’re vitriol against the country and poor old Starmer (who had nothing to do with it ) when you didn’t renew your passports in time and how you d never come here again 🤣I guess you ve calmed down now Did you grand kids have a good time travelling ?

Grantanow

Seems to me the DM is read by people who think Farage should run the country.

The paper was strongly associated with support for appeasement and with sympathy for some aspects of Hitler’s regime, but its position changed as Nazi aggression became harder to ignore.

Perhaps those people "who think Farage should run the country.", will also see the light or maybe the paper will eventually.

Oh God the totally sanctimonious argument that prevails on GN, The Guardian, the good and noble face of journalism. Oh a hundred Brownie points to all those Bien Pensants for doing the right thing , as opposed to those morally bankrupt thickos who actually go out and spend their hard earned lucre on the scurrilous DM the Great Satan of daily publications......but even so, they, the Guardian readers still have to get their DM fix themselves Oh the irony, a sort of warped rationale of boosting the rags readership, albeit on line. We can but draw comfort to know that the outraged of comfortable Middle England could possibly lead us of a lower intellect to a higher ground. Let us embrace the free thinking and the illuminating "my truth" of Owen Jones, let us shun the columns of Hadley Freeman in the ST, turncoat and traitor, like her colleague Suzanne Moore who dared to challenge the thoughts of the Guardian's very own demi god! Stupid women, what were they thinking of.

I love it TerriBull. Wish there was a like to tick on here. Now that would be really interesting.

😄😄 terribull I take it you read the DM. Love the hyperbole.

TerriBull well said 😂😂😂

It's clear the Moral High Ground is a place only suitable for those who don't read the DM.

Grantanow

Seems to me the DM is read by people who think Farage should run the country.

I read the DM and Farage and his like are the last people I want to see entering No 10. Don't generalise!!!

25Avalon

I love it TerriBull. Wish there was a like to tick on here. Now that would be really interesting.

Agreed, both with TerriBull's post and the tick, which I have asked Gransnet for many times.

I must remember to creep in quietly to the shop to get my DM later and touch my forelock on the way out.

We had a Volvo way back when it was the middle class car of choice. It had a thingy that you could flip to make it go into over drive.

We have the Daily Mail delivered together with The Times.

The thing that makes me smile is the fact that people think that one's newspaper of choice is the only way to know about the world. We are surrounded by opinions, news etc every where we go. And, we have brains.

And, after some recent personal experiences have shown, any news is better than none.

I am often astounded by people, one a friend, who say things like 'I don't do news' - how can it be avoided.

Some people really "don't do news" they just do gossip. Nothing new there, it happens in all parts of society. However, we can choose neither to listen to it or validate it by repeating it.

I read the DM online. Except on a Saturday when I buy an actual paper because I like the TV magazine. I always read all the newspaper headlines on line, would like to get The Times but aren’t newspapers expensive now?
I used to have a paper round and would take a Telegraph and Mirror back for my parents. The Telegraph to read and the Mirror for the racing pages.

I use to read the DM before covid. Never the political side as I really wasn’t that interested.
Liked the health, travel & money pages.
My dad used to pass it on to me.
He was a real gentleman. kind, & generous person, so if you are trying to say we are scum for reading it.
Now get the telegraph passed on to me.

I first saw this post when it had only just landed and had no replies. I know from experience that you can get eaten alive on here if you confess to reading the Mail. So I wasn’t brave enough. Thank you to TerriBull and those who came after her for confessing the mortal sin of being a Mail reader.

I have to say that Daily Mail articles are a very mixed bunch. Look at the online version and you are bombarded with trash, mostly about Z-list celebs, Royal scandals and general gossip which you can largely ignore. But I have come across many interesting in depth articles over the years, they are hidden in there somewhere, and not all right wing.

If a news item requires visual evidence this is the place to go. There are photographs showing every detail, and there is nothing wrong with that. Photography is in itself an art and the photographer may have gone to huge lengths to get that picture. I like photographs.

Unfortunately, the DM spends far too much time delving into celebs' lives, but I guess that's what people like. Click on the Travel or Money tabs at the top and you'll find masses of interesting and unexpected stuff. It's not all bad.

And just remember that the DM has run several high profile social justice campaigns which you can see if you google campaigns that the daily mail has run. Again, it's not all bad.

Used to buy the DM on a Saturday for the weeks tv programmes. That is until the run up to the Brexit vote. Everytime I went to the newsagent to buy the Times I saw the DM’s screaming headlines telling us we should vote to leave. I have never read it since. Wikapaedia doesn’t class it as a newspaper as it doesn’t have enough news. Remember reading that the owner of the DM said the answer to why his paper was a success was because they always had a cause to pursue. Hence Brexit I suppose.
I have members of the family who read it on a daily basis.
They were amazed that I thought it was a rag. They talk about perhaps voting Reform. I just looked horrified and said nothing.

My favourite Daily Mail campaign was their Block Online Porn campaign. They did receive criticism because their web pages were almost soft porn by nature, but the campaign aimed to protect children from hard core so was still a worthy cause.

Used to read the DM many years ago when it was a mid range dirt if paper, not broadsheet but sensible often with some very good articles, and good tv pull out. When they started to picture well known women commenting on their aging looks and also ‘famous’ people who they thought looked like their pets, and was generally unpleasant, we stopped.
As for cars it was probably Skoda referred to upthread, which was made fun of. Thank goodness that is no longer the case. They are good cars. We had one which we were very happy with. Lada too was the but of jokes but we had one of those too. It was a heavy drive, but reliable.

Sort not dirt…. Though dirt woukd be appropriate too.

TerriBull

Oh God the totally sanctimonious argument that prevails on GN, The Guardian, the good and noble face of journalism. Oh a hundred Brownie points to all those Bien Pensants for doing the right thing , as opposed to those morally bankrupt thickos who actually go out and spend their hard earned lucre on the scurrilous DM the Great Satan of daily publications......but even so, they, the Guardian readers still have to get their DM fix themselves Oh the irony, a sort of warped rationale of boosting the rags readership, albeit on line. We can but draw comfort to know that the outraged of comfortable Middle England could possibly lead us of a lower intellect to a higher ground. Let us embrace the free thinking and the illuminating "my truth" of Owen Jones, let us shun the columns of Hadley Freeman in the ST, turncoat and traitor, like her colleague Suzanne Moore who dared to challenge the thoughts of the Guardian's very own demi god! Stupid women, what were they thinking of.

Keep this post.

You will need to repeat it at least once a month.

srn63

I didn't know Volvo drivers were looked down on, what a strsnge comment. I used to envy them with their safe, reliable cars which we could never afford! We are now on our second in the XC series and wouldn't buy any other car ever, after the robustnrss of our first saved me and our grandaughter from a very nasty car accident.

The only folk I knew who drove Volvos was two GPs who lived next door to my M &D, also my teacher had a Volvo- I remember because she always brought her dog to school & we would go to the car in our break time to walk it.

My Yorkshire Lass (eldest daughter) shudders at the mere mention of the DM. My gentle and kind 94 year old Scottish stepfather has it delivered every day (for years) except for Sundays when he takes the Sunday Post. Mind you, he’s not interested in politics nor celebrities, nor sport really, so apart from the daily crossword and code word I’m not sure how much flipping if the pages he actually does!

I look at it on line occasionally. 🤷‍♀️

Terribull
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Terribull 😁 I do love your posts!

Perhaps nanna8 was referring to the Great Divide on Gransnet which is quite noticeable. However, how do you refer to someone who might read the Daily Mail and the Guardian online? A cheapskate, perhaps, because all the other publications are behind a paywall?

I do wonder if nanna8 meant a Skoda? But they are much improved now, I think.

We have had two Volvos, one a big heavy one to tow a caravan, the other smaller and that one did save us when we were in a crash. Although the bodywork was a complete mess the frame remained intact because it was so solid and we were all fine but shocked.

The DM has hidden depths, I read it along with the DT, RTE and I often look up news in the Guardian for a different perspective.

I found this article in the DM yesterday, it is fascinating.

Ancient DNA exposes a hidden chapter in the fall of the Roman Empire.