The Daily Mail - the great divide

Just came across this story about the disappearance of Sir Ranulph Fiennes and I challenge any of the DM haters to read this to the end and not find it fascinating. It's just the kind of story the DM does so well.
www.dailymail.com/news/article-16143341/Ranulph-Fiennes-living-explorer-year-concerned.html

Chestnut

Just came across this story about the disappearance of Sir Ranulph Fiennes and I challenge any of the DM haters to read this to the end and not find it fascinating. It's just the kind of story the DM does so well.
www.dailymail.com/news/article-16143341/Ranulph-Fiennes-living-explorer-year-concerned.html

Unfortunately it won’t allow me to read it.
I would have liked to read that.

I use to love reading the Daily Mail
For the health, wealth, & bios.
Better than the Daily Mirror Rag.

I don’t hate the DM. It has some useful articles as I alluded to much earlier in this thread. This isn’t one of them.

But what is the point of this story? It isn’t news, it’s a muck-raking feature. That the writer’s articles are featured on a web site called Muck Rack says it all really.

The headline “Where on earth is Ranulph Fiennes?” as if he’s wandered off and lost is misleading. The writer knows exactly where he. It’s click bait.

Fiennes hasn’t disappeared at all. He’s old, frail and living in a care home with power of attorney given to his wife. He is entitled to privacy.

MT62

Chestnut

Just came across this story about the disappearance of Sir Ranulph Fiennes and I challenge any of the DM haters to read this to the end and not find it fascinating. It's just the kind of story the DM does so well.
www.dailymail.com/news/article-16143341/Ranulph-Fiennes-living-explorer-year-concerned.html

Unfortunately it won’t allow me to read it.
I would have liked to read that.

I'm not sure why because it's not behind a paywall.

Chestnut

Just came across this story about the disappearance of Sir Ranulph Fiennes and I challenge any of the DM haters to read this to the end and not find it fascinating. It's just the kind of story the DM does so well.
www.dailymail.com/news/article-16143341/Ranulph-Fiennes-living-explorer-year-concerned.html

I was going to post that. I’m a big fan of Ran 🥰
What other platform has mentioned a living hero who has disappeared😥

MT62

Chestnut

Just came across this story about the disappearance of Sir Ranulph Fiennes and I challenge any of the DM haters to read this to the end and not find it fascinating. It's just the kind of story the DM does so well.
www.dailymail.com/news/article-16143341/Ranulph-Fiennes-living-explorer-year-concerned.html

Unfortunately it won’t allow me to read it.
I would have liked to read that.

Go one month free. But make sure you cancel at the end of the month.

BlueBelle

Horrid paper and I wouldn’t read it, let alone ever buy it. Most of the British press is very right wing.
How strange that you show interest, all those thousands of miles away, I don’t read any Aussie newspapers, why would I ?

Better than the Daily Mirror

petra

MT62

Chestnut

Just came across this story about the disappearance of Sir Ranulph Fiennes and I challenge any of the DM haters to read this to the end and not find it fascinating. It's just the kind of story the DM does so well.
www.dailymail.com/news/article-16143341/Ranulph-Fiennes-living-explorer-year-concerned.html

Unfortunately it won’t allow me to read it.
I would have liked to read that.

Go one month free. But make sure you cancel at the end of the month.

I don't pay for anything but some articles are hidden, some are free. This one is free. I can't explain why you can't see it unless you just need to register?

Petra if you have a UK library membership and download the Pressreader app, you can read the DM and many other newspapers for free, every day.

I have to confess that after a quick scan of the despicable DM, as with GN I like to do the daily code word, I think I have an addiction to them. I've done it today, my time around 5 minutes which I thought not too bad . Not so! on checking how I'm placed on my timing, I'm always languishing somewhere near the bottom, placed 2,900 and something out of 3,500 plus. Oh well, I'll keep trying always an excuse to justify getting the scurrilous journal up on line. I'm trying to improve my personal best which came in at a mere 4 and half minutes I like a challenge!

Excellent article on Raynauds Syndrome on the Health and Wellness pages today. I suffer from this and I know and understand how this relates to my hand problems. i also learnt, that in my case, it is probably an auto immune disease.

If people could not fixate on just reading the political pages and read the excellent medical, financial and review sections.

The pages on the book on Princess Diana, I just turned over as a wodge,

I think it a great shame that with so many brilliant clever and thoughtful journalists in this country who write weekly in our Daily papers of all persuasions, so few people have the capacity or curiosity to read them.

Monica there are lots of extremely interesting articles written by brilliant and clever journalists in the newspapers I choose to read. What I won't do is pay to read political propaganda that is often extremely biased or dishonest in content. However, if people want to spend their money paying for the Daily Mail, that's fine with me but if they use spurious articles ( where ever they come from) I will challenge them.

foxie48

Monica there are lots of extremely interesting articles written by brilliant and clever journalists in the newspapers I choose to read. What I won't do is pay to read political propaganda that is often extremely biased or dishonest in content. However, if people want to spend their money paying for the Daily Mail, that's fine with me but if they use spurious articles ( where ever they come from) I will challenge them.

You really do not get it. There is much good journalism in ALL papers that has got nothing to do with politics.

The DM has a commendable campaigning history, as has the The Guardian, Observer, Sun and Daily Mirror. But many of them have respected Health and financial sections, and review sections.

However what puzzles me most is how all these people who do not read the DM because it is so biassed, and only publishes political propaganda (is there any paper that doesn't?) etc etc can possibly know all this if, as they say, they never read the paper?

By the way could you explain what you mean by spurious articles? To me it would mean someone publishing an article that they say comes from a particular newspaper(of your choice) when in fact it doesn't and is possibly a forgery. Does that happen very much?

M0nica you surely don’t have to actually read the DM or any other paper to know what’s in it.
You can simply come on GN and read other’s opinions, then adopt or reject them for yourself, with embellishments to support your views.

Or better still, look at the facts about the accuracy of their reporting of news and other topics compared with other publications, from public opinion polls, research pieces and industry insider analysis.

Mollygo

M0nica you surely don’t have to actually read the DM or any other paper to know what’s in it.
You can simply come on GN and read other’s opinions, then adopt or reject them for yourself, with embellishments to support your views.

Of course you need to actually view the evidence before your reach a conclusion.

The spread of misinformation and conspiracy theories feeds on people not checking information and believing other people's version of events or what was written without knowing whether they fully understood what was said or whether they have an agenda that leads them to deliberately or without realising it distort what was written to back their own view.

Casdon suggests the ideal situation, but research of that depth is rarely possible, especially on trivial issues. But actually reading the article one is criticising, is a bare minimum, or if you are going to heavily criticise a paper and make sweeping statements about it you should have been reading the paper regularly.

M0nica

foxie48

Monica there are lots of extremely interesting articles written by brilliant and clever journalists in the newspapers I choose to read. What I won't do is pay to read political propaganda that is often extremely biased or dishonest in content. However, if people want to spend their money paying for the Daily Mail, that's fine with me but if they use spurious articles ( where ever they come from) I will challenge them.

You really do not get it. There is much good journalism in ALL papers that has got nothing to do with politics.

The DM has a commendable campaigning history, as has the The Guardian, Observer, Sun and Daily Mirror. But many of them have respected Health and financial sections, and review sections.

However what puzzles me most is how all these people who do not read the DM because it is so biassed, and only publishes political propaganda (is there any paper that doesn't?) etc etc can possibly know all this if, as they say, they never read the paper?

By the way could you explain what you mean by spurious articles? To me it would mean someone publishing an article that they say comes from a particular newspaper(of your choice) when in fact it doesn't and is possibly a forgery. Does that happen very much?

Actually, I completely "get it" but I think you have read my post and put your own spin on it. I subscribe to a variety of different newspapers that are both on the right and on the left but not the DM as it is my personal view that their political views are often presented in a "spurious" way.
"Spurious". Not real or authentic: Something that looks true or real, but is actually a fake or counterfeit.Flawed logic: An argument or claim based on bad reasoning and false information. AI gen
How do I know this? Articles from the DM are frequently used by posters to start a thread, so yes, I can say with certainty that the DM publishes "spurious" information. Yes, other papers do print propaganda. eg Farage uses his Telegraph column to promote Reform policies. However, I choose to read media on the left and the right so that I have a more balanced view of politics. I also read newspapers from other countries and subscribe to American publications but then again, I'm interested in politics rather than gossip although I always read Hello at the hairdressers (wouldn't pay good money for it though!)

You’ll believe everything on AI next.

BlueBelle

Horrid paper and I wouldn’t read it, let alone ever buy it. Most of the British press is very right wing.
How strange that you show interest, all those thousands of miles away, I don’t read any Aussie newspapers, why would I ?

I read my newspaper on line. The paper allows me to share it so I do. I share with my husband and with my daughter who lives in Australia.
It helps to give us something else in common that we can chat and message about. I presume nanna8 finds the same.

Foxie48
I think I’m safe in saying that the millions who subscribe to the DM often say what a load of tosh or in my case a different load of 😂

petra

Foxie48
I think I’m safe in saying that the millions who subscribe to the DM often say what a load of tosh or in my case a different load of 😂

I say the same of some of the rubbish I read, however, although the DM is a very popular paper it still has a circulation of just over 600K print and fewer than a million online, so not quite the "millions" you say in your post.

Top Print and Readership Rankings

Metro: The most widely distributed free daily paper in the UK, with the highest overall print distribution.

The Sun: Historically one of the country's most-read national daily tabloids and a massive digital newsbrand.

Daily Mail: A leading daily newspaper that frequently alternates or ranks at the top for paid-for print sales and total brand reach.

The Guardian / The Times: Major national broadsheet/news brands with large dedicated digital audiences and high public trust rankings.

Mollygo

M0nica you surely don’t have to actually read the DM or any other paper to know what’s in it.
You can simply come on GN and read other’s opinions, then adopt or reject them for yourself, with embellishments to support your views.

😂

petra

Foxie48
I think I’m safe in saying that the millions who subscribe to the DM often say what a load of tosh or in my case a different load of 😂

People say that about EVERY paper.