The Daily Mail - the great divide

Remember Volvos as being built like tanks and renowned for their safety features. But not particularly stylish with drab colours.
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Just the job for the middle class. Estate versions were very coverable

I think SAAB cars were similar and made by Swedish aircraft manufacturers according to my father.

Running joke at the time. Did you hear the one about the Volvo that hit a parked empty Mini

The Volvo didn't have a scratch on it but the Mini ended up the size of a match box.

The Volvo was the forerunner of the Rang Rover/ Chelsea Tractor.

As for the DM. All newspapers
M have their own agendas even so called Broadsheets.

Used to be a saying from old people l remember as a child. Today's newspaper is tomorrow's toilet paper.

JenniRen

25Avalon

Newspapers are never entirely accurate. If you are involved or have first hand knowledge of an event that took place, when you read the report in whatever newspaper you will know it is not as you witnessed it.

There was a front-page report in The Guardian a few years ago, written by a well-known activist.

I knew his complaint was inaccurate, in fact much was a fabrication, because I had relatives who were also there and involved.

Why be 100% accurate if you can embellish a story or add a few 'inaccuracies'? It sells newspapers, doesn't it.

Well I think that proves they are all at it and the DM is not the only paper with inaccuracies. If someone has first hand knowledge then that cannot be refuted.

In fact, anyone writing an article is going to put their own slant on it, embellish it with their own opinions and point the reader in a different direction.

So for all those looking down their noses at the DM please take note that the Guardian has made up stories too! 😲🤥🤭

foxie48

I certainly don't think Daily Mail readers are contemptible, just poorly informed.

About what?

"But not particularly stylish with drab colours."

Ours was yellow 😀
Not a colour we would have chosen but it was secondhand and a good price.

WithNobsOnIt Used to be a saying from old people l remember as a child. Today's newspaper is tomorrow's toilet paper.
Well that was true then but not today. Newspapers are all available online and can be searched digitally. You can find an article about a named person even 100 or more years ago. Our ancestors would never have dreamt it would be possible for all their misdemeanours to be read by their descendants.

Olivebranch

A lot of snooty comments on the DM. I read the Times and Saturday Telegraph but would pounce on my MILaws Sun whenever I saw her. Nice to read something different.

"Snooty". Well that saves you having to make a reasoned argument.

Chestnut

WithNobsOnIt Used to be a saying from old people l remember as a child. Today's newspaper is tomorrow's toilet paper.
Well that was true then but not today. Newspapers are all available online and can be searched digitally. You can find an article about a named person even 100 or more years ago. Our ancestors would never have dreamt it would be possible for all their misdemeanours to be read by their descendants.

I get your point. And this may be a good thing. I think the point l was making was that a lot of featured news and articles in all newspapers and can be biased and have well versed arguments and sometimes hidden agendas.

They are based upon the experiences lived or imagined. And the views, values and political beliefs and leanings of the journalists who wrote them and the Newspaper Owners. Not as powerful as they were in the days of

Nobody has

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Of the Press Barons. Now have nutters on Social Media who think they rule the world.

Nobody has a Divine Right to the truth. Not even the incredibly Holier Than Thou deluded BBC and their patronising Godly Verify Service

So some of the stuff that is written on newspapers and the paper it is written on . Is barely fit to wipe your back side with. And that was my point.

My parents bought the Daily Mail because they found redtops like The Sun vulgar, and the broadsheets too expensive and heavy going. I always liked the Daily Mail on Saturdays as it had really interesting stories about the Second World War, and the columnists weren't afraid to say what they thought.
I've never bought a paper for well over 10 years, but sometimes have a look at the Daily Mail website for nostalgia reasons.

SRN63

I had a Volvo Estate when my sons were young, mainly because of their SIPS (Side Impact Protection System)

I always felt very safe in it with them - and our two GSD's.
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Barbadosbelle

SRN63

I had a Volvo Estate when my sons were young, mainly because of their SIPS (Side Impact Protection System)

I always felt very safe in it with them - and our two GSD's.
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Oh yes, I forgot the SIPS.
Of course, there were no seatbelts in the rear in those days.

For BlueBelle, and that "Most of the British press is very right wing." . . and anyone else who thinks the same.

Over 2 decades the amount of newspaper sales has dropped like an anchor, if you want to look at a media source that might get attention, try TV news, or assorted sites on Facebook, Reddit, Snatchit, Wotsit, or other drivel?

The "mostly right wing" appears unaware of The Guardian, and the Mirror, both distinctly left-facing, the Metro (no notable politics in it), and the i-Paper (which has a particular policy to give readers a variety of points of view, you can make up your own mind).

The Metro these days has the largest distributed print circulation among UK newspapers, and it's worth noting that Reach produces both the Mirror, and the Express, as they're not trying for converts, they're trying to get sales by giving readers what they want.

Years ago the Daily Mail was running a lot of stories about the Beckhams. They wrote a lot about the house the Beckhams had in France. At the time a friend of mine was employed by them to do a lot of work on this house. As a result I heard a lot about what was happening, which was nothing like the Mail's version. It made me think that, if they were publishing blatant untruths about things I knew about, what were they saying about subjects I knew nothing about.

The Daily Mail was one of the first papers to cover the Post Office Scandal and to write about the Grooming Gangs. I imagine there are other examples. It seems to be a good newspaper if you want news.

Used to be a saying from old people l remember as a child. Today's newspaper is tomorrow's toilet paper

I thought it was rather “today’s news is tomorrows fish and chip paper.”

I used to buy the Daily Mail because I liked its puzzle pages. I didn't agree with many of the political views expressed but felt that by reading them it kept me informed of what the opposition was thinking. At the end of the day, reading only what you agree with leaves you vulnerable to being ignorant of what is going on in the world.
I stopped buying a paper when we moved house and could no longer get a delivery! At least I no longer have to put up with my adult children's criticism of my choice of reading matter. I can read online both opinions I agree with and those I don't!

MawsRosie

^Used to be a saying from old people l remember as a child. Today's newspaper is tomorrow's toilet paper^

I thought it was rather “today’s news is tomorrows fish and chip paper.”

That's the one!

Much more environmentally friendly than polystyrene boxes. Newspaper is a good insulator, kept the fish and chips hot too.

I spent my childhood zooming around in the back of my Dad's Volvo. We went all over the place in it. I loved the big gold beast!
However, The Daily Mail (choice
of parents!) did have a certain irritating, snuggy-something about it, if I remember correctly. 🙃

I have my contrary head on today and would like to say I will read whatever newspaper or watch whatever newsfeed I feel like on the day.

The magazine which accompanies The Daily Mail on Saturday is informative along with puzzles.

The Mail has fronted many campaigns over the years including to track the killers of Stephen Lawrence, just saying…

Well said GG13.

You’re also due a round of applause for offering all those who decry others’ choice of reading matter a chance to vs.

GrannyGravy13

I have my contrary head on today and would like to say I will read whatever newspaper or watch whatever newsfeed I feel like on the day.

The magazine which accompanies The Daily Mail on Saturday is informative along with puzzles.

The Mail has fronted many campaigns over the years including to track the killers of Stephen Lawrence, just saying…

Precisely. This why I think so many people's reaction to the paper is so stupid.

It is a campaigning newspaper and always has been and it led the fight against plastic bags, failings in PPE, and campaigned for Stephen Lawrence, as GG13 says.
www.dailymail.com/news/article-9543629/The-Mail-campaigns-changed-world.html Yes,this is a DM site, but the campaigns all happened organised by them.

Recently the most reasoned balanced and compassionate review of the tragic Oday affair at Cambridge was written by Boris Johnson in the DM. Usually, even I find BJ way beyond the pale and unreadable. But in this case he was superb.

I just read this thread again all the way through. My conclusion is that nobody is convincing anybody of anything, just entrenching pre existing views. It’s like a well rehearsed ballet.

And it has started going round in circles as all threads do after several pages, people repeating what's already been said because they've not read the thread. 🤦‍♀️

I used to buy the Telegraph because, being a large paper, it used to cover stories inside that were generally ignored by the tabloids and also it didn't fill pages with Show-biz rubbish and rumour. I changed to occasionally buying either the Express or Daily Wail when the price of the Telegraph made doing the Cryptic Crossword too expensive to justify the cost.

These days I just pick up the Metro on the bus occasionally but watch BBC, Sky, Al Jazeera and CNN news, as the mood and headlines take me. The Cryptic Crossword in the Metro is variable in quality but helps pass the time at the return bus stop.

My late father used to read it and when I went to buy it for him I always said “Just picking up dad’s paper” in aloud cheery voice. I felt such a snob 😂