Seems it’s now Harry’s uncle - the Earl of Spencer - having his turn at a “tell all” book.

I just didn't list the names of the royal experts who said what I was reporting.
They're easily enough found.

No mention of any others Charles dated

Yes, Elegran, but CS is quoting his view of the experience. The rest of us do not have that advantage.

I wonder if people will ever stop treating Diana as a victim?
She chose to go on holiday with Dodi, member of a disreputable family; she chose to play fast and lose with the press, complaining about them one moment then putting on a display of diving the next half hour; she chose to leave the safety of the Ritz knowing paparazzi were waiting outside; she chose to ignore the advice of the bodyguard about the dangers of going out at that time, and most of all, she chose not to wear a seat belt as the car sped through the streets of Paris with a group of journalists in hot pursuit.

She was not the innocent ingenue of nineteen; she was thirty-six with two sons who would not enjoy seeing speculation their mother's relationship plastered all over the front pages of newspapers,before her death, and have had to suffer the pain of her untimely and unnecessary death ever since.
And now their uncle is raking it all up again.

No comparison whatsoever with family events misremembered by different family members, and of no interest to anyone outside the family.

Well said Eazybee

The book is not about Diana’s death specifically though? It’s about her life. How sad that the story of anybody’s whole life would be written off by the manner of their death. I’m not a Diana fan, as I said before, but I recognise that her brother does have the right to tell her story from his perspective.

But his 'story' about the supposed conversation with and attitude of Charles following her death isn't Diana's story is it, it's his.

If someone's writing from their perspective they should say so, rather than giving the impression that what they're writing is fact; it's not difficult is it.

'He sounded as if he was elated' or 'he came across as elated' or 'my impression was he was elated 'for example.

It's good to see you posting Annie your absence from this thread had some of us worried .

Inaccuracies frequently occur in non-fiction. Traditional book publishers rarely use fact checkers.
Publishing Houses leave verification to the author.
There is little time for time for deep verification in tell-all books The book is rushed to market from commercial pressure.

eazybee

I wonder if people will ever stop treating Diana as a victim?
She chose to go on holiday with Dodi, member of a disreputable family; she chose to play fast and lose with the press, complaining about them one moment then putting on a display of diving the next half hour; she chose to leave the safety of the Ritz knowing paparazzi were waiting outside; she chose to ignore the advice of the bodyguard about the dangers of going out at that time, and most of all, she chose not to wear a seat belt as the car sped through the streets of Paris with a group of journalists in hot pursuit.

She was not the innocent ingenue of nineteen; she was thirty-six with two sons who would not enjoy seeing speculation their mother's relationship plastered all over the front pages of newspapers,before her death, and have had to suffer the pain of her untimely and unnecessary death ever since.
And now their uncle is raking it all up again.

No comparison whatsoever with family events misremembered by different family members, and of no interest to anyone outside the family.

So well said eazybee that I quoted it.

Smileless2012

But his 'story' about the supposed conversation with and attitude of Charles following her death isn't Diana's story is it, it's his.

If someone's writing from their perspective they should say so, rather than giving the impression that what they're writing is fact; it's not difficult is it.

'He sounded as if he was elated' or 'he came across as elated' or 'my impression was he was elated 'for example.

It's good to see you posting Annie your absence from this thread had some of us worried .

Do we know he hasn’t said so Smileless2012, given none of us have actually read his book? It’s easy to assume the press version reflects the tone, when one sentence is taken out from the whole.

Good to see you annie

We were concerned at your ‘Royal’ absence Anniebach.

Missed your contributions.

In his interview with Laura Kingsburg he was adamant that Charles sounded "giddy and elated" Casdon.

I didn’t watch the interview, it will be interesting to see if it reflects exactly what he said in the book - but he was giving his impression of the phone call in the interview, from what you say, if he said Charles sounded that way.

Perhaps it’s just me, but I’m struggling with the conclusions people are jumping to on this thread, I’m not pro or anti anybody, but it seems that most people are rushing to attack this brother of Diana on a very slim body of evidence.

It is impossible to be sure of anyones mood over the phone. Sobbing or trying not to cry can sound like hysterical laughter.

I doubt anyone could reliably recognise 'giddy and elated' over the phone, especially if it was not an emotion you were expecting.

M0nica

It is impossible to be sure of anyones mood over the phone. Sobbing or trying not to cry can sound like hysterical laughter.

I doubt anyone could reliably recognise 'giddy and elated' over the phone, especially if it was not an emotion you were expecting.

I also think that as a royal and heir to the throne that the King was always guarded in his reactions, but would be even moreso if he genuinely was over the moon that Diana had died.

On the other hand, some people are rushing to defend this brother of Diana on a very slim body of evidence.

Do those who defend him, agree that writing this book for his own gratification shows little consideration for the feelings Diana’s children and grandchildren?

He has been told his sister was dead, 30 years on he recalls her husband’s voice,not his thoughts on her death,
Money, 3|4 divorces costs much money

Mollygo

On the other hand, some people are rushing to defend this brother of Diana on a very slim body of evidence.

Do those who defend him, agree that writing this book for his own gratification shows little consideration for the feelings Diana’s children and grandchildren?

The whole point is that there is a slim body of evidence full stop Mollygo. I’m not defending him, merely saying he has the right to give his view of his sister and her life. A lot of people seem to be saying he doesn’t, because they don’t like his version of events. In fact it seems that a lot of people have their own version of events in their heads - remember, however inaccurate his account though, he was there, and you weren’t.

He wasn’t there,he was living in ,South Africa’

In fact it seems that a lot of people have their own version of events in their heads - remember, however inaccurate his account though, he was there, and you weren’t.
Do you honestly think that King Charles can enter this very public arena to start arguing the odds over 'he said' 'he said'? And if CS's account is inaccurate is that fair?

I've posted actual links to historical video interviews CS has given where not one smidgeon of accusation has been made, and to photos of his meeting with the then Prince Charles in SA just 3 months after Diana's death where he is being friendly, smiling, amiable. Would someone so hurt by the words and actions of another really conceal that for 29 years before needing to 'set the record straight'? I hold no brief for any member of the RF but I don't like manipulators and liars. Charles should never have married Diana, and she should have abandoned her wanting to be a princess and not married him. Isn't it documented she knew she was making a mistake and said to one of her sisters it was too late to back out because "the tea-towels have all been printed"? Surprising that neither of the sisters see the need to publish a 'tell all' book 🤨

It does seem a bit sloppy for a historian to not check basic facts.
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Actually Casdon you are defending him, but you’re entitled to do that - just not at the expense of those who do not defend him.
Your point,
In fact it seems that a lot of people have their own version of events in their heads - remember, however inaccurate his account though, he was there, and you weren’t.
Applies to every poster on this thread, including you and me.

As I asked,
Do those who defend him, or appear to defend him whilst denying that they do, agree that writing this book for his own gratification shows little consideration for the feelings Diana’s children and grandchildren?

Do you term putting an alternative point of view forward as defending somebody you have no vested interest in Mollygo?

As I’ve said several times, I think putting forward his perspective is acceptable. He has said nothing that William and Harry didn’t know, and nothing that will affect them going forward, they haven’t been criticised in any way.
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I think people have it out of perspective, jumping to the defence of the king and children, when this book isn’t going to make a lasting mark on the Royal family.

Rosie51, do you not think "backing out of a marriage" regardless of who is getting married is very difficult. It must be even more so when the whole world knows you are scheduled to marry someone who is so important and your only parent is telling you that you can't.

Diana married about the same time as I did and the same age. I had tried to back out of my marriage and the consensus was that I was just suffering from pre marital nerves. I left the house with a cigarette in one hand and a whisky in the other. I was so conflicted and although I didn't want the relationship to end, I felt very trapped by the expectations. I never wanted to be a princess but I also wanted to be settled in a way my Mum had never really been.

Like Diana, my parents had had a bitter divorce and I was struggling with extreme emotions. I didn't know how to handle them and I suspect neither did Diana. My husband had had a boarding school education, was brought up to believe he was destined for greater things and had a mother who was distant. He had no idea how to handle my moods or how to get help. When we eventually called it a halt I wasn't allowed to tell anyone because it was so shameful for him. Well, that didn't end well!

I just think it is easy to judge from a distance, the lived experience is often very different to the perception of those who are involved or on the sidelines.