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Marks & Sparks Christmas Cards

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Lyndiloo Mon 17-Dec-18 02:57:01

I bought a packet of M & S Christmas cards last week. I was in a bit of a rush, and they were pretty, so I put them in my basket. It wasn't until I began writing in them that I suddenly noticed that nowhere on the card was the word 'Christmas'!

On the front of the card it says, 'Winter wishes', and on the inside, 'Enjoy the festive season'.

What's going on???

Okay, if you're not a Christian, these cards may be right up your street. But if you're not a Christian, why send a card at all?

I'm furious! (Not least because I'm now having to write inside every card, 'Happy Christmas!')

And, while I'm ranting, please, please everybody - stop putting an 'X' where 'Christ' should be! If you really do have to shorten 'Christmas' (lack of time? can't be bothered? disrespect?) how about 'C'mas'? But definitely NOT X!

Chewbacca Mon 17-Dec-18 20:35:50

Sorry to be oblique mcem! My post was in response to the dressing down we got from lizzyann.

mcem Mon 17-Dec-18 20:32:48

Am I being utterly dim or is GN in cryptic mode today???
Where did "mustn't upset the minority come from"??
Talking about pagans? Muslims? What?
And still waiting for the "no need to spell it out" explanation? Or was that it?

Chewbacca Mon 17-Dec-18 20:24:41

So that's us told! tchgrin

EllanVannin Mon 17-Dec-18 20:07:56

Mustn't upset the minority.

lizzyann Mon 17-Dec-18 19:55:17

Christmas has nothing at all to do with Christ nothing at all , he wasn't born on December the 25th , you are celebrating saturnalia. It is all pagan .What has a tree got to do with Christ , what has any of it to do with Christ . Nothing , it would be a good thing for all to do some research on this subject .

Greciangirl Mon 17-Dec-18 18:52:39

I always buy charity Christmas cards.

This year I bought an assorted pack with different charities benefiting from the proceeds. (Hopefully).

I think it’s a bit wasteful buying and sending cheapy ones.

Chewbacca Mon 17-Dec-18 18:39:48

NannyC2 do only persecuted Christians matter?

Anja how did you extrapolate that from NannyC2's post? confused

ReadyMeals Mon 17-Dec-18 18:18:31

Well let's put it this way. If Jesus is ok with it then so am I, and something tells me he's got better ways to celebrate his birthday than worrying about what's printed in shop-bought cards.

mcem Mon 17-Dec-18 17:57:13

"We know what the problem is without spelling it out"
Sorry, don't get that. Would you spell it out for me please?

Aepgirl Mon 17-Dec-18 17:28:55

I cannot understand why a Christmas card can have anything but Happy (or merry) Christmas. Whether you’re a Christian or not, Christmas is a festival that we celebrate in this country.

Anja Mon 17-Dec-18 16:31:44

Esspee me too (or I also). Any excuse for a get together with family or friends wine ????

soop Mon 17-Dec-18 16:31:32

Well said, Luckygirl I agree.

Anja Mon 17-Dec-18 16:29:22

NannyC2 do only persecuted Christians matter? I’m sure you include all those persecuted for their faith, their culture, their sex, their class or whatever, in your thoughts and prayers.

Esspee Mon 17-Dec-18 16:19:36

Solstice celebrations have existed for far, far longer than Christianity. Everyone has their own beliefs and I am happy to embrace all celebrations.

NannyC2 Mon 17-Dec-18 16:09:08

I would not be happy either, Lindiloo. We know what the problem is without spelling it out.
I like 'Happy Christmas' on cards and quite often I write 'Wishing you all the Blessings of Christmas.'

Charity cards or those to the Church In Need are probably the best ones to get.
Even Prince Charles is now speaking out for the persecuted christians in the Middle East.

I do wish more people would read what is going on in many countries.........for example....

During one of 8 raids on Christian villages on August 28 in Nigeria, herdsmen burned alive a Christian pastor, his wife, and 3 young children in their home. Armed with machetes and AK47 rifles, the raiders also looted and destroyed 95 houses and three churches. Gyang Adamu, one of the pastor's surviving children who was away at the University of Jos at the time, got to know about the attack when he saw a post on Facebook that his village was under attack. When he finally got home, he saw his Dad and younger ones burnt beyond recognition.

Not a Happy Christmas for many people under many different circumstances.

Madgran77 Mon 17-Dec-18 15:58:18

It doesn't really seem worth expending energy on being furious about this really! But trouble is when we are busy etc it is easy to get very wound up about something; |I do it myself.

Noit sure people think about cards being for Christians to send these days ...or about Christmas being a Christian festival, either!

grandtanteJE65 Mon 17-Dec-18 15:57:54

IMO we can wish each other Happy Christmas and leave it to each person to read what they want into the greeting.

I only send cards with nativity scenes on them to those who I know share my religious convictions. After all there are plenty of cards with Santa, snow scenes or Christmas trees around.

muffinthemoo Mon 17-Dec-18 14:18:43

Just in passing, for those who have mentioned wanting 'alternative' messages in cards:

Etsy UK or Folksy have a really wide range of stuff, mostly handmade, and always a great source for something a little different

Nonnatimesfour Mon 17-Dec-18 14:10:02

I totally agree with you Lyndiloo. Christmas is Christmas and cards should say something about Christmas. Here's wishing you a Merry Christmas Lyndiloo.

Skweek1 Mon 17-Dec-18 14:04:22

As a Wiccan, I don't care what cards say. It's the thought that count. If you are a Christian, you can always buy a small box of cards with the Christian message for those who share your faith. I can't afford to pay much, and although I've tried doing the crafty bit, they always look really home made and unprofessional. I send cards to family, friends and some neighbours around Yuletide and whatever their faith, they seem to appreciate the thought.

Orelse Mon 17-Dec-18 12:25:21

Readymeals ... what a great way of staying slim over Christmas...stuff with goodies then eat Brussels sprouts ! Now there's an idea
???

MawBroon Mon 17-Dec-18 12:22:29

OK while we are on the subject , why do I only find the packets of leftover cards from last year/the year before /the year before that and so ad infinitum after I have bought enough for this year (plus a few “spare”)?

Anja Mon 17-Dec-18 12:14:38

Readymeals indeed! I do so feel for all those fasting during daylight hours in the summer months.

BB well said

Lupatria glitter is an environmental disaster

Shortlegs Mon 17-Dec-18 12:14:23

"Furious" "ranting" - suspect you might need to get out a bit more?

Lupatria Mon 17-Dec-18 12:11:01

i like glittery cards and will continue to buy them if i see them.
of course the words merry or happy christmas have to appear somewhere.