Do you really like the song?

I love the song. I don't really understand why it matters who else likes it or not.

I like some Irish music, but that's not why I like the song. It's set against the absolute mess which life and humans can be, but it's also a romantic tale of two people who still love each other despite everything.

That's my reason. I expect other people have many other reasons. That's why music is so magical.

PS. Happy Christmas everyone!

Am surprised to see many older women liking punk rock ( or claiming to)😄

I’d be surprised if many didn’t. Punk started in the late 70s - long before ‘younger people’ were born. It was popular in my youth, along with glam, prog rock, pop, folk and other genres. In any case, the notion of only liking the music of one generation has been obsolete for decades. These days it’s very mix and match, in my experience - it must be very stifling to confine yourself to a narrow range of musical styles, and pretending to like something is just strange - why would anyone do that?

I don’t know that The Pogues were punk either - they pretty much defied genre, never mind generation. We have several of their albums, my children listen to them, and my father used to tap his feet too (my mum didn’t like the swearing).

That’s not what I think of as punk. I think more of I am the antichrist, Johnny Rotten and that sort of thing.

I love it and have since it first came out. I also loved Kirsty McColl’s music. They were both hugely talented.

Am surprised to see many older women liking punk rock

Many of my contemporaries were punks. I preferred heavy metal.

But you grew out of it Pittcity I bet. I’m at the younger end of posters on GN but don’t listen to music I used to like when a teenager.
Tbh it doesn’t matter to me if posters still like this music, just think it’s an awful song with awful voices and weird lyrics for a Christmas song.Am not alone in that it seems.

Oreo It seems to bother you that some people like the song and I don't really understand why. They have different tastes from you, that's all.

PS. I still listen to some music I liked in my teens. Why shouldn't I?

I listen to guns n Rose's and country music. The country music is my dads fault

I think it would be hard to define this as "punk"... but this thread wasn't about the genre it was just asking who liked it? - Surely we shouldn't be able to "argue" about that as it's a personal response to an artistic endeavour. Some say they like it but some don't and some don't care either way.

However the question was quite confrontational polomint,
Do you really like it or just ordered to like it?

I wish I hadn't got caught up in the discussion now about being "ordered".

Like growstuff I see this as a deeply moving and powerful love story despite our faults and failings. Yes, there's an argument and a bit of blaming and misunderstanding going on too but love inspite of everything.

You took my dreams from me
When I first found you

I kept them with me babe
I put them with my own
Can't make it all alone
I've built my dreams around you

Many of us build our dreams alongside those of the person we love. I know that my husband and I have over the years... I consider myself very lucky that we still have each other - and something in this song celebrates that. The small triumphs of our love and everyday survival shines through to me in this ballad. It will forever be close to my heart.

Isn't love (without conditions) the message of Christmas?

We can't make it all alone.

It strikes me as quite narrow minded to discount music because of it's vintage and /or genre.

The most important part of any song, for me, is the lyrics. My husband rarely let's lyrics trouble him and his favourite type of music is jazz fusion.

I love 'the song', I haven't been brainwashed. Nor do I only listen to music from my youth. One of my current favourites is James May.

The most important part of any song, for me, is the lyrics.
This made me think, kitty, and for me lyrics are not the most important part of a song, but maybe that's because my preference is for Baroque and early music that's often sung in Latin. So for me, songs are more about melody and beautiful singing. I tend to look up the lyrics of sones I know well so that I can sing along (badly and only on my own!) but the the instrumental music is more important for me.

The instrumental music of the song this thread is about is good. But MacGowan's voise spoils it for me.

No, it doesn’t bother me at all growstuff that posters say they like this music. I was just joining in the thread with my thoughts is all.
I don’t see it as narrow minded Kittylester to not like punk or heavy metal or any other genre that having heard it, a person can then dislike it.It would be narrow minded to dismiss any music or film from it’s vintage of course.
The Pogues are my era but having heard FONY when it first came out I disliked it.I also disliked the awful Noddy Holder Christmas song.😁

NotSpag, I think 'confrontational' questions on GN are fine. One can always ignore them if one finds them bothersome.

Baggs goes to look up the Noddy Holder Xmas song......
another she'd never heard of.

I think it’s the same for me Baggs in the voice/voices/ melody is the most important thing in a song, and lyrics come last.

Ah. That one. I have heard that one quite often. At least it sounds jolly 🤪

I love it. It's a song about hopes and dreams which seem to be coming true then crash away. Their world collapses but even then, deep down, their love survives.

It’s a great, rousing song and I’m another whose always loved it. Bit like ‘C’mon Eileen!’. Gets you singing and tapping your feet, both. That said, it might get overplayed by the media this year and it’ll get boring because of that. I liked hearing it occasionally as it was sparky, quirky and different. Very clever lyrics.

Yes a desperate damaging love story - surviving. A glorious tune - it’s a joy.

I heard the Messiah at the Bridgewater Hall in Manchester last night. The huge place was packed to the rafters. It was absolutely glorious - so different than Fairytale but confirmation that Christmas with its roller coaster of emotions is here

Oreo

But you grew out of it Pittcity I bet. I’m at the younger end of posters on GN but don’t listen to music I used to like when a teenager.
Tbh it doesn’t matter to me if posters still like this music, just think it’s an awful song with awful voices and weird lyrics for a Christmas song.Am not alone in that it seems.

I like lots of music nowadays. I plead guilty to not having heard most of today's top 40.
My go to radio station is Planet Rock, so I still love a bit of Foo Fighters or Black Sabbath.

I’ve not grown out of Joni Mitchell, the Eagles or Bob Segar. I still dance if one of those great Stones dance alongs comes on the radio in the kitchen.

I haven’t grown out of music either. I just add to what I like as I get older.

Exactly doodle.

Well, we’re all different hey? I have grown out of music I liked as a teenager and moved onto other things.