Marydoll
Such a pity this thread has become unpleasant.
We should all be able to celebrate as we wish, without criticism.
Quite.
Sorry, MissA. I hope it's clear my post above wan't meant as a reply to yours 
First of all I hope you all had a lovely Christmas Day however you celebrated. But speaking personally I am relieved it is all over, all the pressure and hype starting in November, just for one day. I suppose as I am on my own it makes a difference, but even as a youngster I was never that keen, Somehow it never quite lived up to the expectations, sorry for being a Grinch, and it's lovely for the children, but surely I can't be the only one who feels like this- be honest
Marydoll
Such a pity this thread has become unpleasant.
We should all be able to celebrate as we wish, without criticism.
Quite.
Sorry, MissA. I hope it's clear my post above wan't meant as a reply to yours 
I think they are celebrating Christmas, there is lots of laughing and singing...I cannot see if they are dancing
Oh, that sounds cheery. 
I don't know how Sikhs celebrate, are they dancing??
Such a pity this thread has become unpleasant.
We should all be able to celebrate as we wish, without criticism.
My neighbours 2 doors up turned up with a transit van full of fold out beds yesterday and they've put a tarpaulin up over the drive and the music has been in full swing since 11am this morning. They are Sikh
I am sure they'll finish at a reasonable time though. I don't really mind tbh. I have double glazing
You really are determined to drag this out, aren't you 😂
I've explained why I posted and that my intentions were good, but clearly that's not enough. Never mind. I hope that others are able to accept my explanation at face value, either based on what they know of me from previous posts or just because it is the season of good will.
Best wishes for a happy and healthy New Year when it arrives, to you too, Oreo, but I won't be responding to you further on this thread.
Not everyone has religious faith.
The lady is recently widowed.
It's just crass to keep talking about what's sad and what isn't, and when Christmas should end for other people.
escaped exactly that, the real meaning of sad👍🏻
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Sorry, BA69 we're not halfway through yet. 😀
The wise men have yet to arrive!
Doodledog
Oreo
Doodledog
Oh, I didn't see this as a thread about being miserable - more about recognition of the fact that the picturebook/TV representations of Christmas aren't always accurate, and that however much we enjoy it, Christmas can be hard work.
Maybe those who are seeing it as a miserable thread are showing their own miserable outlook?Here it is.
Yes, I know. That's the post I was on about - complete with wink. 'I don't see this as a thread about being miserable' - why single that out?
If you aren't being being nasty I don't know what is.
We all celebrate (or not) in our own way. Some have a great time and others don't. Why the need to call people 'sad'?
Anyway, I really cba with this. It's still (supposedly) the season of good will, and I'm not being goaded like this any longer.
You still don’t get it.
I would never call other posters on a forum ‘sad’ it was the fact that they were glad that Christmas was over that I found sad.Have already said there were reasons behind their thinking so.
It isn’t goading to want to establish the truth and not liking to be misrepresented on the thread .Neither is it nasty.
Actually as Allira says, Christmas isn’t really over yet as it runs up to the Epiphany on January 6th.I wish all GNetters my best wishes for a happier and healthier New Year when it arrives.
Doodledog
Oreo
Doodledog
Oh, I didn't see this as a thread about being miserable - more about recognition of the fact that the picturebook/TV representations of Christmas aren't always accurate, and that however much we enjoy it, Christmas can be hard work.
Maybe those who are seeing it as a miserable thread are showing their own miserable outlook?Here it is.
Yes, I know. That's the post I was on about - complete with wink. 'I don't see this as a thread about being miserable' - why single that out?
If you aren't being being nasty I don't know what is.
We all celebrate (or not) in our own way. Some have a great time and others don't. Why the need to call people 'sad'?
Anyway, I really cba with this. It's still (supposedly) the season of good will, and I'm not being goaded like this any longer.
I took the use of the word sad to mean dismal and sombre. That's why I agreed, and added the comment about not wishing one's life away because there is so much joy to be found in actually living in the moment. And prolonging that moment for some of us.
Perhaps the word sad has sadly taken on a nastier tone because it can mean inadequate or pathetic, though I'm 100% sure Oreo didn't mean that.
Yes, it's all the pre-Christmas hype (for weeks on end) that sets me on edge. We watched a film we recorded a while before Christmas, on a commercial channel. All the Christmas buy-buy-buy goading really looked old! And it's only the 28th today!
Bea65
Well OP is over it as BA69 is on a break😀
BA69 - hope you have a wonderful time😀
And some of us still celebrate it like this- we are all free to celebrate or not in this country which still has freedom of religious expression.
People shouldn't have to justify their feelings about it to anyone but I suppose this is a space for a good moan, and that's not always a bad thing either!
Sorry, *BA69, we're not halfway through yet 😀
"The original twelve days of Christmas were a series of religious feast days celebrated as part of the Roman Catholic religion in medieval and Tudor England. Starting on Christmas Day, there were 12 days of religious celebrations, feasting and entertainments that lasted all the way up to 5 January."
Well OP is over it as BA69 is on a break😀
Oreo
Doodledog
Oh, I didn't see this as a thread about being miserable - more about recognition of the fact that the picturebook/TV representations of Christmas aren't always accurate, and that however much we enjoy it, Christmas can be hard work.
Maybe those who are seeing it as a miserable thread are showing their own miserable outlook?Here it is.
Yes, I know. That's the post I was on about - complete with wink. 'I don't see this as a thread about being miserable' - why single that out?
If you aren't being being nasty I don't know what is.
We all celebrate (or not) in our own way. Some have a great time and others don't. Why the need to call people 'sad'?
Anyway, I really cba with this. It's still (supposedly) the season of good will, and I'm not being goaded like this any longer.
The point is that the title of the thread is wrong!
Christmas Day might be over but the Christmas festival was not over when the OP was posted. Christmas is not just one day.
all the pressure and hype starting in November
I do agree - in fact it seemed to start before Hallowe'en this year. All mention of Christmas should be banned before the first day of Advent!
Doodledog
Oh, I didn't see this as a thread about being miserable - more about recognition of the fact that the picturebook/TV representations of Christmas aren't always accurate, and that however much we enjoy it, Christmas can be hard work.
Maybe those who are seeing it as a miserable thread are showing their own miserable outlook?
Here it is.
It isn’t about me wanting others to do things ‘the right way’ either, it was just a statement that I found it sad that some posters wanted it over as quick as possible.I don’t do Christmas in any way Doodledog being Jewish.It wasn’t criticism from me or that I found the posters ‘sad’ but that I found the comments around Christmas to be sad.They all had their reasons to be sure.
You then introduced the word miserable saying it must be posters who are miserable if they were up upbeat, I can’t remember the actual wording so will find your original post.
A winking emoji means zilch in this context.
Good, thoughtful post keepingquiet and others who think Christmas is something to be celebrated, not got over with then tidied back in the box again.
I can understand someone who has no family, no-one at all to spend time with feeling left out but there are places to go to where those on their own can spend some time with others and enjoy a meal if they wish. DD went to help out at one such gathering this year, serving lunches to those who might otherwise be lonely on Christmas Day. It cheered her up too as she couldn't be with family.
Hanukkah began too, on Christmas Day.
Not everyone is religious, of course, and Christmas may just mean family get togethers, eating, drinking, giving gifts which people have done from time immemorial to lighten the dark days of winter.
This is the sort of thing (ie criticising others' comments) that prompted my post, in which I made a joke (hence the wink) about how the people saying others are 'sad' are maybe skewed by their own desire to be seen to do things the 'right way'.
For me, it certainly isn't about being seen to do things the right way. It is my choice to celebrate Christmas, the way I do, despite how awful I may feel. Take it from me, I feel awful most of the time. The important part of the word Christmas is Christ. That is what it means for me.
Oreo
It’s a bit sad that so many want their Christmas festivities to just be over as quick as possible.
This is the sort of thing (ie criticising others' comments) that prompted my post, in which I made a joke (hence the wink) about how the people saying others are 'sad' are maybe skewed by their own desire to be seen to do things the 'right way'.
I posted as I thought that those having a bad time might feel worse reading that sort of thing, but clearly I shouldn't have bothered.
Yes escaped celebrations of love over darkness and hope for the future❤️
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