Are you woke?

Iam64 It is a question I have asked a number of times, because, while there are those who are lactose intolerant and have some problems with fish and eggs, the majority of food allergies are fruit, veg, nut, soya and grain based.

If veganism is the way forward then its supporters must address the issue of those with extensive allergies to these non-meat foods and how they can possible have an interesting and fully nutritious diet, when so much of the key protein, and mineral and vitamin providing foods, must be excluded from their diet.

For my family and many others with members with food allergies, animal foods are essential for good balanced nutritian.

As I said, I have asked this question before, but every time they see it, all the vegans on GN head for the hills.

I am curious as to why non-vegans expect vegans to justify what they do/don't eat.

Why must vegans address the concerns of non-vegans with allergies, though? I'm not being confrontational - I'm not even vegan! - but unless you are talking about evangelical vegans (aka pains in the proverbial) then they won't be interested in what other people eat.

As GillT57 points out, it is vegans who have to put up with constant questioning of their choices, and are expected to have an encyclopaedic knowledge of ecosystems, dietary food groups and carbon footprints. If they get a question wrong, they are assumed to be hypocrites.

I find that all very strange, as people following other diets aren't put through this. Not all vegans are of the rather tired and cliched 'they tell you' stereotype. They have just chosen a lifestyle that is a little outside of the norm.

I am not asking vegans as a group to justify what they eat. But quite a number of vegans on GN see veganism as a moral issue and castigate those who do not agree with them.

In those circumstances it seems quite reasonable to expect proslytising vegans to have considered all the problems that adapting a vegan diet could cause those with allergy and other problems and also other issues that will arise from adopting a vegan lifestyle.

My God daughter is vegan. It is a personal decision that we all respect. Were she to be constantly trying to get everyone round her to become vegans and criticising those who are not, then it would be a very different matter and she should then expect to be asked about the problems that choosing to be vegan would cause some people - and be able to answer them.

Other people following other diets are similarly questioned by vegans and there are quite a number of us who have addressed these issues. Dare I say 'sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander'?

lizzypopbottle

I am woke but may not be come 9 o'clock when I might nod off for a couple of minutes. That means I will be woke and worrying about such things until 2 am.

Ps I should go and practise some mindfulness too, stroking the bark of my tree, but it's too wet and windy out there.

Ps could it be to do with the packaging rather than the contents?

I'm awake, if that helps?!

All Astonish products are cruelty free. What has this got to do with the word woke??

I still don't understand the word woke. Even after explanations.

I'm sure some bright marketing person will be selling a 'Vegan Woke Remover' very soon.

I am not interested in what people choose to eat.

Comment from America: I googled "Woke origin" and found that it is of African American vernacular origin to denote being aware of social and racial injustice. It sounds like a nice thing to be, but in my limited experience with this word (usually on TV), it's usually used as a sarcastic kind of insult. I've never heard anyone refer to him/herself as being "woke." I think it's usually used by those on the right wing side, ironically suggesting that "woke" people, organizations, political parties, attitudes, etc. are presenting themselves as morally superior.
And it's very rarely used in serious discourse. It's either part of a joke or an insult.

I am most definitely woke. To be alive to and aware of social injustice is surely essential in this current world. We cannot close our eyes to this.

Yes, the term has become used as a stick to beat others with, suggesting that those who claim to be woke are somehow professing a moral superiority, but this seems to be used in that pejorative sense only by those who feel threatened by such awareness and seek to disparage it, that we may not truly understand what it means.

Absolutely, stay awake, stay woke!