Respirator Supply & Demand Dilemma!

The drug companies have made billions out of us and in particular our aged population!
They should be reassuring us they are developing effective anti viral drugs.

Ah, but he manufactures overseas. JCB and RR have factories in Britian

The PM is in discussions with JCB and Rolls Royce to produce respirators.

Shouldn't he be consulting Mr. Dyson?

It doesn't matter who they ask to produce ventilators, it will still face all the problems I mentioned above.

The majority of the generic drugs, like paracetamol, needed to treat this disease are not produced by the big pharma companies. They are generics made and imported from India. It is the Indian government that needs to be spoken to because they have threatened to stop all exports because their own population need the medications.

The PM is in discussions with JCB and Rolls Royce to produce respirators.

Has anyone asked what the drug companies are doing?

So could someone tell me where we would get all these respirators overnight were the government to throw money at it?

There are a defined number if respirator manufacturers with a maximum production capacity. Each respirator contains a set number of parts, some of which will need to be brought in from abroad. Even if a British manufacturer could produce them, they will need plans, raw materials, they will need to retool their production lines and retrain their staff. The defect level will be high to begin with.

There is a pandemic disease spreading at the moment. It is worldwide, so every country is wanting to buy up ventilators. There is competition for scarce resources.

So, I ask again, even if we had billions to buy ventilators, how do we get them into the system in less than a month and probably longer.

Do not do the 'if we had invested in the NHS' cant' Even if we had spent every penny everyone wanted , we would still have a lack of ventilators to deal with a crisis like this, unless we had warehouses filled with them waiting possible use in a crisis like this. Then everyone would be complaining about governement profligact in wasting money on equipment that wasn't needed, like they did when it stocked up with Tamiflu doses for the Swine flu epidemic that was not as bad as expected.

Yes, we do already have that system. Decades ago, my friend (a nurse) was fed up because the doctors didn't want to choose who lived or died - so left it up to the nurses.

Then, it was a question of not enough beds. Not enough respirators is a whole new level of problem. It will be blindingly obvious who is getting treatment - and who isn't!

Doodledog said I think it is very scary to think that decisions about who lives and who dies will be taken on the basis of age and whether or not we have underlying conditions, unless something drastic happens, which seems highly unlikely.

My dd is a final year medic and those kinds of decisions are already taken every day of every week. There will indeed be more decisions to be made but that is the system we already have.

Matt Morgan’s book, Critical explains this.

Short of getting my own respirator, I don't know what your point is craftyone. Do you work for Boris?
Attacking me with the usual nasty digs, again. [Lol! I find you amusing.]
Anyhooo...
NHS staff are the best, that goes without saying..

I have long since lost confidence in the "experts".

Let us never forget that Pol Pot, and Mengele were also "expert advisors".
--Russian roulette--herd immunity - whatever you want to call it, would be more palatable if we had the necessary respirators in place, or in the pipeline at the very least.

so stay isolated and safe while the nhs and scientists do their work. It always they and them for some, for goodness take responsibility for yourself.

Bed blockers need to be moved to hotels, the younger adults need to recover and become immune so they can care for the vulnerable later in time and don`t believe everything you see or hear. There is a lot of scaremongering. The government are listening to their qualified advisors and all are doing a sterling job

Me too.
Isolate, and hopefully we can make it to the New Vaccine Level.
And especially looking forward to voting time, should I be spared.

The sick advert-lady on the opening page of GN is coughing into her balled up fist! Get a tissue, or use your elbow...

I think it is very scary to think that decisions about who lives and who dies will be taken on the basis of age and whether or not we have underlying conditions, unless something drastic happens, which seems highly unlikely.

I can understand the logic (who couldn't), but as you say, in the fifth richest country in the world these decisions should not have to be taken.

Austerity has a lot to answer for, as do those who voted for it. I know that is harsh (and I await the whataboutery), but as someone with asthma whose husband is diabetic, I am scared and resentful.

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1AIroyiLEM Oop!