Schools

Where did I write "ignorant"?

Are you threatening me? It sounds like bullying to me.

By the way, where is your evidence that absenteeism is higher amongst teachers than any other sector?

Strangely enough, many teachers have been working through the night, as well as in the morning, to provide online work for their pupils.

Well growstuff, if you wish to engage in personal insults by way of addressing me as "ignorant" I am only too happy to oblige.

However, I would remind you of how that turned out for you in another thread recently. I was hoping in this thread we could engage in a respectful and thoughtful discussion on the education profession in regard to the current health crisis, but perhaps that is not possible.

Anyway, good night for I have to be working in the morning.

The schools are all closing on Friday trisher my older DGC (14 and 12) were told not to come in tomorrow . So NO the teachers are not keeping schools open .

Don’t make me laugh Labaik .

Most teachers spend their summer holidays doing lesson plans.

Interestingly the military have had all leave cancelled in order to help out in this crisis. Maybe teachers should have their 6+ weeks summer holidays cancelled in order to catch up on the teaching missed in April, May, June.

By the way growstuff I am not a "union man", we do work for the Unite and GMB unions by way of tuition to there members in industrial and workplace safety.

My wife and I have owned and operated that business for the last eighteen years.

Teachers are keeping schools open and dealing with children in the abscence of their sick colleagues.At the same time they are working to put in place a system that will provide education in some form for children on-line or by other methods. They are also working on how to deal with the children most in need. Secondary teachers are putting together a system for awarding children the academic qualifications they will need. This in a profession which generally works most evenings and weekends doing planning,assessment and marking. I advise you to stop criticising something you obviously know nothing about, you are simply demonstrating your ignorance.

Well at the risk of being isolated /banned or whatever....I’m past caring .

The schools are closed from Friday . If you are a teacher then Whoopee doo. No work but full pay . If you are a teacher with kids at school then double whoopee doo, I’m getting full pay and can look after my own kids .

For the rest of society . Kids off school. Parents in the private sector cannot go to work . Equals no pay .

We’re all in this together ? Don’t make me laugh .

'Where in the education profession are we seeing that sort of motivation and spirit tonight,?'
...I can't believe I've just read this.....obviously someone who doesn't have a family member who works in education. Words fail me....

Grandad1943 Teachers generaly suffer a high level of communicable diseases because of the close contact they have with children. Usually when they are sneezing/coughing/running a temperature and suffering loads of other symptoms they will struggle into work because they know that if they don't extra responsibility will fall on the shoulders of their over worked colleagues. However the situation now prevents them doing this, so they are self isolating as instructed, and of course the temperature/cough may turn out not to be Covid19, but would you really want them to take a chance on that?
I wish you would realise that teachers have no more desire to skive off than any other members of the work force, and indeed most have far less because of their commitment to both. the children they teach and their colleagues.

Well growstuff let's have a look at the motivation of workers outside of the education sector. Two of our companies assignment teams are at present working in large supermarket distribution centres training up staff as replacement fork truck drivers and powered palette truck operators etc.

Tonight one of the team controllers was saying that an HGV driver was unhitching a trailer at the end of an eleven hour shift when one of the warehouse supervisors approached him and asked if he could do one more delivery to one of their quite local supermarkets as the store was completely stripped of most of its stock.

The driver lent back against the vehicle and said "oh God" but then agreed to go although it would be at least two hours more work in the rush hour traffic.

Where in the education profession are we seeing that sort of motivation and spirit tonight,?

I'm zero hours contract, nobody to babysit or even keep an out for my grandson.

I usually work so that he is only alone for 2 hours at most. (Not by choice, I hasten to add)

I'm not sure if I'm vital or not as a support worker. Could do with some support myself!

Teachers have been planning remote work for weeks, in addition to their normal teaching commitments. Some of the ones I know have stayed after work for training in Microsoft Teams.

I publish worksheets and have been providing them for free in the current situation, to help out ex-colleagues. That's what solidarity is about Grandad - I would have thought you'd understand that as a union person.

My grandchildren are at school tomorrow, and then the teachers are meeting on Friday to arrange ‘remote lessons’. The children aren’t going to have a chance to mess about. They’ll have work to do.

I would be banned from GN if I wrote what I really think of your post Grandad.

I'm so angry, I'm speechless.

Sarahmob. Been there/done it as a supply teacher. I know how precarious and thankless it can be. It would be good if people could be kind and thoughtful.

You're right Oopsminty I was a full time teacher for nearly 30 years and I don't remember one year when I didn't have some kind of nasty cold or bug. Like many, I struggled in because I felt a duty to the pupils and to my colleagues, who would have had to take on extra burdens.

Teachers have been told to stay at home to protect their pupils.

On behalf of teachers, I resent the implication in the above post about teachers' absence.

Chardy, in regard to your above post, the high level of absenteeism in the education category at this stage of the epidemic must raise questions in regard to the professional motivation in the sector.

Why when so many in other industrial sectors are achieving an all-out effort to maintain optimum production while also achieving far lower absenteeism at this stage of the pandemic, which is to the benefit of us all, is there such a lack of motivation in education it would seem which has brought about the closure of all schools in Britain?

At my grandson's London school nearly 30% of the pupils are already off which roughly equates to the reported number of teachers not at school. They're certainly not all sick.

Having two young teachers in the family, I can verify that they are constantly battling coughs and colds.

Primary School pupils especially, tend to get every bug going

They then pass it on to their teachers

The advice has been if you have a cough you self isolate

Could be why some teachers are off

Doing what they have been instructed to

I work on a zero hours contract as a supply teacher, I don’t work, I don’t get paid. Time to tighten the belt I think ?

No grannyactivist. The exams have been cancelled. As a private tutor, most of my pupils were preparing specifically for GCSE and A level exams, which they now don't need to do.

I've been working with some of them for nearly two years and was preparing to go online for their lessons. In fact, I'd already transferred some lessons from face-to-face to Skype/Microsoft Teams. We're all gutted.

Sussexborn; Guess there is no chance of picking up covid in B and Q

DGD's school is already partially shut and she hasn't been to school this week. It has now become academic (sorry) for them as the whole family have had to go into social seclusion today because the family of DGS's best friend have gone down with the virus.

I'd like to know too Chardy.