Stupid, selfish, stubborn old people

It's never unusual for me not to see the family for 2 or 3 weeks anyway---- them working odd hours etc. so I'm used to solitary confinement. It's no big deal. I hope I'm never reliant on them or it's just hard luck, which is why I must abide by the rules for my own sake.

patcaf, dog walking, distancing, fortnightly shopping - all reasonable. We do the best we can according to circumstances - those of us that bother, that is!

I posted this in another thread but will post it again- 7 members of a Freehold, New Jersey family contracted the virus- 4 died- 2 were in critical condition- Their family name Fusco-

My point, you don't have to be old and stupid- Everyone is vulnerable- And in some cases, much more vulnerable than others-

I hope when people who disregard the rules and get sick do not expect family, friends and healthcare to drop everything and become their first priority.

We should all have plans to address complications.

I agree, Eglantine but don't leave. It's good to have as many viewpoints on what's going on as possible.

I too get frustrated when people just don't 'get it.'

EV If you are ever desparate for anything give me a message and I'll pick up for you and throw over your fence.

Testing in the US is not much better.

This so called president has proved once again he is dangerous and irresponsible

Aww, Glamm that's so good of you.x What a kind gesture, not being rude but isn't that like the blind leading the blind ?

She can go back to work yes. At least that’s what she’s understood. And no, she had no one to look after her, though she did keep in touch with us, her friends, as much as possible.

It was understood that if she developed worse symptoms eg breathing difficulties, then she should ring 999. The trouble is when does it become critical and if it did would she have been able to summon help.

Still it all seems a bit hit and miss.

I was shocked reading about the death lorries in Italy and how some were fetching the bodies of those who died at home. That sounds a terrible situation.

That was in answer to Callistemon and Charleygirl’s queries.

Eglantine
I cannot believe the posts I am reading and I despair of our generation.
The older generation. We are the vulnerable.

I suppose, if you think about it, not everyone on Gransnet is the older generation. Some Grans, as was pointed out to me in quite a forceful fashion some while ago, could be in their late 30s or early 40s. Some 'Gransnetters' are not Grannies, Grandads or even parents.
Some may be out and about shopping for older friends, neighbours and relatives.
Some may be in essential jobs.

Just a thought.
Don't disappear!

Everyone can catch it. Everyone. It only takes a second of contact with someone who has it. Long before they know they’ve got it.

You don’t have to be old to get it, but after today you probably will have been stupid. Just getting your hair done, just seeing your grandchildren for a little bit, whatever it is that people want to do that isn’t actually necessary.

40% or more of older people will need medical support if they catch it. That’s thousands of us. Thousands. All at one go if we don’t stay away.

But oh no.

“The doctors and hospitals should be able to cope. I should be able to do whatever I want.”

The trouble is when does it become critical and if it did would she have been able to summon help.

That was what I was wondering, Pikachu
Poor woman. I suppose as long as you can check in with her by phone or online every day and summon help for her if she doesn't respond, that would be helpful.

Oh yes, I don’t include the younger grans in my rant.

Just those who should be doing what’s asked of them and won’t.

Most of my family will still have to work, some in those essential services, the NHS, schools, farmers, supermarket workers.
Not everyone can work from home.

Im taking a break for my own good. It’s making me so cross.....

I would think that there are many thousands in the same boat, Eglantine. Cross and frustrated and this is only the beginning.

sorry if my family working to defeat this is upsetting people.

I'm upset and worried for them having to go to work.

I agree! I'm over 70 so I'm isolating for the good of the health service - not me! They don't need us taking up beds while we can avoid it. As I understand it we are just delaying things to keep the health service functioning. We may all get it eventually but at least the burden with be spread out if we all do as asked.

rockgran- absolutely right! I’m in my late 60’s and was told 2weeks ago by my doctor son (in no uncertain terms) to self isolate .

Eglantine, I couldn't agree more. Some people just don't get it. We are self isolating to protect ourselves but also so that we don't catch it and take up a valuable ventilator that should be free for younger people who keep the vital services going for us. We can skype in groups for our coffee get togethers, we can grow our hair, shop on line, embrace the peace and quiet to study, to read, to paint, to create or just to stop and think.

I now know several people who think they have had the virus,although none have been tested,that includes an NHS Doctor,all are recovering well and did not need medical intervention.

But once you start knowing people with it,it becomes real.Self isolation it is for me.

I haven't seen my GC since 23rd February and am now into my third week of isolation.
I have been out of the house just to get into the car, we drive to the seafront and sit with the window open. Sometimes we take our novels and read.
My hairdresser comes to the house and she is due next week but for the first time in my life I am going to cancel.

Callestemon I’m sure no one is criticising people who have to go to work .I for one feel so sorry for the not old who are losing their livelihood or who are risking their health in the course of their work. I think the OP,is talking about irresponsible older folk who seem to think the governments edicts is not about them. Hopefully most of us know that this is not about protecting us but about protecting the health service.