Why dont people understand the words ‘stay at home’ !

I’m sorry things are so hard for you right now.

My point was simply that we aren’t all in prison. We are all isolating to some degree and all in this together.

I wasn’t trying to be unsupportive, but looking at this like a prison sentence surely isn’t the most positive way to go about life.

Although, by your last line of we are all meant to be supporting each other, I assume you mean only those who feel your joke was funny? As you just tried to tear a strip off of me. Interesting as you have no idea how I (or other who found it distasteful) are coping.

Marydoll - I am sorry that your circumstances are so very difficult. We are living through some terrible times just now.

Summerlove, I had already been told weeks ago, if I got Covid19, I probably wouldn't survive it, so I'm well aware of the need to stay safe and not leave home or have contact with anyone. That is why I have been in isolation for the last six weeks, before all the media hype.

I was also told weeks ago, I shouldn't go to my daughter's wedding, which was very difficult. It didn't matter in the end anyway, as it was cancelled.

New treatment in hospital that I have been waiting months for, which would at least have given me a fighting chance, was cancelled on Monday. This treatment was actually given to desperately ill Coronavirus patients in China and they survived. My consultant told me if I had already started the treatment, they would have continued it, but it was too risky for me to even come near a hospital to begin it.

When I was told that if anything went wrong, they couldn't guarantee that life saving treatment would be available, I knew then I was in deep trouble.

You bet it's damned hard being isolated and forgive me if I make a joke of being in prison, rather than having a hissy fit! I'm also trying to preserve my sanity, instead of wallowing.

I despair, we are supposed to be supporting each other.

It just seems a bad joke is all.

Much of the world is on lockdown. By comparison, it’s actually a pretty light lockdown in the U.K.

Is it hard being inside? Absolutely. But it’s better than dying.

Marydoll It's my 65th birthday tomorrow, so we'll have to celebrate together (apart) . It certainly will be an unforgettable birthday!

Summerlove, it was a joke, but, as Marydoll says, it’s something we’ll need to experience, and maybe reminding yourself you’re keeping people safe and protecting the health service will wear a bit thin after many weeks of isolation.

Sadly one of my young adopted relatives is in prison - like many prisoners he is highly vulnerable with mental health problems and he has had a very difficult life, being drug-addicted at birth - and he is in his cell on his own for 23 hours a day as there are too few fit staff to supervise them if they are let out. He truly is paying the price for his crime. My worry is that the prisoners will be like powder kegs ready to explode during the hour they can move around the prison.

Disagreeing

I dont think that people who express how it FEELS are in any way dusagreeing that it is necessary..

Daddima, I may be wrong, but I can see what you mean about a prison sentence.

I have been isolated for six weeks already and the thought of absolutely no contact with anyone, not being able to put a foot over the doorstep for another twelve weeks, hospital treatment postponed and not being able to hug my wee granddaughter, when I used to see her most days, is indeed a bitter blow, when you are already suffering chronic ill health. June seems a lifetime away.

Unless you have experienced it, you have absolutely no idea what it is like, so in a way it is like a prison sentence, albeit in more salubrious surroundings. It is not facetious to liken it to a prison sentence, because that's what it is, like it or not.
At least in prison, you are guaranteed medication and food, not easy for those of us, who have to rely on others and have experienced difficuly accessing medication.
The toll on mental health will be enormous, it's a very lonely existence for some.

However, it is the only way those at very high risk can stay safe and not be a burden on the already overstretched health service. We just have to get on with things.
However, people having a go, just doesn't help at all!

Daddima, my husband took great delight in telling me that.

I will be incarcerated for my 65th birthday, but will be released from prison, just before his 70th! Nae luck at all!

I will continue to make the best of things and just be grateful for the kind words and support here on GN. (Well most of the time)

so time served already isn’t taken into account, you know, like they do for prison sentences

Yes, Keeping people safe, and making sure the hospital system isn’t overwhelmed is completely like a prison sentence.
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As far as I'm aware nobody on my street is counting how often peoples cars leave their drive.

This is deemed OK, if they are not in the high risk group.

Well you had better tell their nosy neighbours that! And dont ask anyone who has neighbours who post on this thread!

No I didnt imply I was in the total isolation group. I said I had to go out twice to the pharmacy (instead of our usual once), and drive there too as its not my nearby pharmacy. And thank god I dont have GNers for neighbours or I would be tried and hung for it!

I got ‘the letter ‘ too, Marydoll. I was a bit annoyed that it’s 12 weeks from today, so time served already isn’t taken into account, you know, like they do for prison sentences !
23rd of June, by my reckoning.

Notanan, I have had a letter from NHS Scotland today, advising me that as I'm in the high risk group, that I must ask someone to collect my pharmacy items. It has been happening for weeks, anyway. This is deemed OK, if they are not in the high risk group.

There is no physical contact at all. We also have sanitisation processes in place for anything left on the doorstep.

You implied that you are in the vulnerable group, if you are, it's advisable not to put yourself at risk. However, if you are not and I have misunderstood, there is nothing to stop you going yourself. There is no need to bite my head off.

One of my neighbours, who is fit and healthy has just left a loaf on my doorstep, no contact at all. It was extremely kind of them to phone and offer. I thank God I have lovely neighbours.

notanan2 is there no-one who could help get your prescriptions, to save you having to venture out?
Even one of your nosy neighbours, or do you not want anyone knowing you are unwell?

How on earth does that logic work? Then THEY would be venturing out! And would have THEIR neighbours judging them.

No. Luckily I do not have neighbours who are like some of these posters. I have not been confronted about going out.

I dont see how getting someone else make two pharmacy trios is any better than going and doing it ourselves??? Please explain that makes NO sense?

Sorry Rosenoir, I flipped the thread and got confused. All the same I think we are all getting very hung up this going out business and as far as I can see as long as you keep to your self , keep a safe distance and wash your hands everyone should be safe.

notanan2 is there no-one who could help get your prescriptions, to save you having to venture out?
Even one of your nosy neighbours, or do you not want anyone knowing you are unwell?

My neighbours have been great, leaving bread and milk on my doorstep, which has relieved a lot of stress.

I'm sorry to hear you are so upset. .

I know how difficult it is to get repeats in the present situation and as my medication keeps changing it has been really stressful.
I've already been isolating for the last last six weeks and not only is my pharmacy is another town, they keep changing the opening hours.
My future son in law goes and queues for ages and then leaves them on the doorstep.
I don't know how I would have managed otherwise.

Barmeyoldbat I had not read a post by you re cycling so ,no my post was not aimed at you.

I am saying those that flout the rules have a "good reason" , but what if we all did it.

So will my neighbours be flicking their net curtains and judging me?

Probably!

And the people "confronting" aquaintances/strangers really think they are going to tell you their private reasons?

Why glad you asked Mrs NoseyBot, I'll HAPPILY tell you that when my hidden condition makes me faecally incontinent, I cant get myself properly cleaned up without help. Or that my mental health has taken a nose dive so although I have (as you noticed and recorded) already been out for my repeat prescription, Ive had to go back again for a higher dose. SO glad you asked.

Nope, they will give you the flippant response you deserve!

I have just spoken to my elderly neighbour, who was walking to get milk. He and his wife insist on shopping daily.
When I said that at over seventy, with health conditions, he shouldn't be going out every day for shopping and that shopping is supposed to be limited to only once a week for essentials , he just laughed and said he didn't know that and off he toddled!

The reason I'm so annoyed is that he is my DGD's other grandparent and his wife, (her other gran) is still turning up at my son's wanting to visit.
My DGD is on oral steroids and vulnerable, so we are trying to keep her well.
I'm raging at him and his irresponsible wife, who refuse to isolate, saying it doesn't apply to them! ?

I also have to shop for both my daughter who is disabled and can't now get out of the house and my son an essential worker who finds he is unable to get to the shops in time because of his hours and both of them can't get delivery slots. So for my daughter I do a shop which will be once every two weeks, drive the 110 miles round trip, open her back door, put the stuff on the table and then go home. I have tried and tried to get help but there is no one or any charity that can help. So it has to be done and I am not happy about it. My son I do one shop put it on my driveway and he picks it up. So will my neighbours be flicking their net curtains and judging me?

Peoples "visitors" may be bathing them etc. That IS allowed, and you are allowed to drive for it. You dont know what hidden disabilities your neighbours and their friends/famikies do or dont have! There have been warnings that this kind of informal care should NOT stop as that would risk lives too!

Can y'all maybe isolate away from your twitchy curtains?

One of my neighbours is regularly picked up by car by her parents - her father is over 80 and her mum is probably in her late 70s. They have been advised by the tenacy support worker where I live that this is not right - the father just laughed and said that the worker was scaremongering! What will it take to stop these parents doing this? Them being ill or worse or the daughter being ill? Or one of the rest of us that live here? I can't get my mind round this situation.