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7 more nightingale hospitals

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MissAdventure Sat 04-Apr-20 18:30:27

I'm shocked that they'll be needed. That's all, really.

MissAdventure Sat 04-Apr-20 18:31:52

Oh,so shocked that I forgot to say they're being built. (Apparently)

EllanVannin Sat 04-Apr-20 18:36:32

They'll perhaps be turned into care homes in the aftermath ?

MissAdventure Sat 04-Apr-20 18:38:32

Yes, though it's going to be a long aftermath, I think.

suziewoozie Sat 04-Apr-20 18:44:05

Not being built though are they - but buildings being reconfigured. Not that I don’t think they aren’t doing a brilliant job mind. Seeing the London one really brought it home to me though - as do the refrigerated trucks in NY.

Greymar Sat 04-Apr-20 18:45:13

Hospitals or something more sinister I wonder?

MissAdventure Sat 04-Apr-20 18:46:36

It's the first time I've felt quite overwhelmed by it all.

paddyanne Sat 04-Apr-20 20:18:15

My neighbour who is a charge nurse says it will be a morgue ,due to the lack of urgency ,the flights still coming in with no checks and the still crowded transport system,She says she thinks the government is still going down herd immunity route despite saying otherwise .She was very angry at Hancocks "we've lost 4 Doctors and SOME NURSES" on Thursday.It appears nurses dont count .

Labaik Sat 04-Apr-20 23:35:12

Where are they getting the nurses and doctors from to staff these hospitals?

Callistemon Sun 05-Apr-20 00:11:15

You'll be fine, paddyanne
Scotland has its own devolved healthcare system.

MissAdventure Sun 05-Apr-20 00:36:22

I've no idea, Labaik.

I have seen an ad proclaiming there's never been a better time to join the NHS.

Namsnanny Sun 05-Apr-20 02:18:19

Greymar … Are you feeling distressed? I'm asking because you have already said in other threads that you feel distressed from time to time, and something about your post made me think you may be feeling overwhelmed.
Understandable in these times.

Labaik … A week ago a portion of Dr's and nurses (in London) were sent home to work in isolation, although they were re trained, healthy and OK to work.
This was so there would be a healthy workforce ready to fill in/pick up the slack when others started to fall ill with exhaustion or covid 19.
I'm not sure of the percentage overall, and if this strategy has been followed elsewhere, but I think it has.

I suppose it's better to plan for failure than fail to plan (or something along those lines) MissAdventure
Lets hope we don't need them. shamrock

LullyDully Sun 05-Apr-20 08:08:04

Is there to be one in Portsmouth or Southampton? Bristol is a long way from here.

Greymar Sun 05-Apr-20 08:17:53

Thanks for asking Nams, I am not well mentally.

This site isn't helping me , so I must dial it down and look for help.

GrannyLaine Sun 05-Apr-20 08:26:41

They may not be needed. They are using large capacity buildings already in existence to relieve pressure on hospitals, who in turn are already converting appropriate spaces such as operating theatres and recovery areas to provide intensive care beds. Inevitably, they will need to be planning extra mortuary space as death rates are so much higher than normal in a short space of time. Whether the new units will be needed or not, or to what extent, depends very much on public compliance with social distancing / isolation. I find this worst case scenario planning reassuring if it prevents some of the dreadful scenes shown in Italy and the United States

GrannyGravy13 Sun 05-Apr-20 08:29:04

Greymar take care of yourself flowers

Lucca Sun 05-Apr-20 08:37:31

In touch with Italian friend daily, for mutual support, she seems still to think we are not being strict enough and was glad to here about Starmer offering to collaborate with govt
When I tell her what’s going on, and she reads a lot about uk too, she says it’s just like them two weeks ago, so that’s why she’s worried.
Good post paddy Anne

TATT Sun 05-Apr-20 08:40:22

I know it’s been mentioned before, but I just don’t know how they are going to staff them, especially when all the extra ventilator capacity is taken up. Critical care nurses have always been like gold dust.

Greymar Sun 05-Apr-20 08:42:22

Thanks Gravey, appreciated.

suziewoozie Sun 05-Apr-20 08:55:06

Re staffing, remember there are the returners plus new doctors, medical students, student nurses plus there is some retraining going on of HCPs who aren’t really being used now in their normal roles eg physios. I also read of an orthopaedic surgeon who was working as a nurse. If you think about it, a mature experienced motivated HCP could quickly become proficient enough in what is a relatively narrow range of CC skills. Not downplaying the range of skills generally needed. I always think of someone I knew who was the GP on the Falklands for years - he did everything including emergency appendectomy and of course childbirth. Its about being good enough I suppose, not perfect.

GrannyLaine Sun 05-Apr-20 09:32:11

Exactly right suziewoozie and also St John's Ambulance service. There is a massive Armed Forces medical reserve to draw on as well as the Territorial Army reserve. We have a great deal to be grateful for in this country.

Callistemon Sun 05-Apr-20 09:39:39

Most of the staff needed will not be ICU nurses and doctors which does require a specialised training. Someone I know well is a sister but in a different area of specialty and is now being trained to work in ICU. They are being 'fast tracked.

GrannyLaine Sun 05-Apr-20 09:40:06

Greymar thinking of you, its hard when your mental health is challenged in this way. One of my DDs struggles with anxiety and is finding these times really difficult. I've found this last week on GN quite a negative place to be for all sorts of reasons. I hope you can find your happy place again, even for a short while: remember how much laughter you brought us last weekend flowers

May7 Sun 05-Apr-20 09:41:06

My Ex nursing colleagues are all upskilling quckly mostly through e learning. Difficult but not impossible. They should have retired years ago but couldnt afford to due to State pension age rising to 66.

Callistemon Sun 05-Apr-20 09:42:03

Greymar it's such a stressful time for all, take care of yourself and stay well.