Not protected

Care home worker tells me they have run out of plastic aprons and now have only paper ones and no masks.

Mother of a nurse on an Covid ward is in a craft group who are sewing scrubs which are vitally needed. The fabric must be washable at 60degrees. Polycotton with 65% polyester is preferred.

Sorry this should have been posted in the thread about people not feeling safe. Apologies for posting it here by mistake, just ignore....

I havent known what to think then I watched a podcast with virologists, public health docs, GPs etc. discussing and explaining. The bottom line is that local public health services cannot cope, plus the govt has not wanted to learn from experience of other countries, so hotbeds of infection are still being ignored, e.g. multi occupied places where the virus is all over communal areas paintwork, banisters, lift buttons, doors, etc. Its obviously a big risk but many people have not twigged and there are no guidelines for staying safe in these places. If we personally understand these issues better, we might be able to protect ourselves. It's on YouTube, it's called COVID REPORT 08 04 20. Think it is the first in a series discussing aspects of the problem.

This came up just now on other social media.

Laundries

The point is that the TYPE of scrubs that can go back to the landries have to be the same universal kind that can be sent back out to anywhere.

Non standard ones = home laundering

Most Governments realised the urgency of the matter.

No idea what is worn where, but part of our business is protective clothing and masks. Since end of January the supply chain has been overwhelmed. Even before the WHO declared a pandemic and were still saying human to human transmission was low.

NotananIt's really nothing to do with temperature as in critical clinical areas, the temperature is carefully controlled. Infection control is the important thing. They are cheap and easily changed in areas where things get messy. In theatre, it would only be the surgeon, assistant & scrub nurse who wear full length sterile protection. All others in theatre would just wear clean scrubs

At the hospital where my dd is based everyone who has close contact with patients is currently wearing scrubs. My dd has told me this and I’ve seen it for myself in the photos on social media. No one is wearing regular uniform.

Most fabrics you would have aroubd the house that are that thin/cool would also be a bit see through. Which would be no good in professional settings. And most the fabrics thick enough to be dignified are under hot full PPE

The type of areas where full length PPE would be used already wear scrubs not uniforms.

I can't agree about scrubs being "summer wear". Their use is determined by the type of working environment

Yes and in operating theatres they are worn under full length plastic gowns so cant be too hot

Being used in summer is not the primary reason they are cool, but they are deliberately cool for a good clinical reason. Cant have people fainting into opened up people in operating theatres

Scrubs were originally worn in operating theatres, changed into prior to going in to theatre and changed out of before re-entering ward areas. The used items were bagged and sent to the hospital laundry. This still applies in larger hospitals as part of good infection control. SueDonim I take your point about your DD if she struggles to find appropriately sized hospital wear. I can't agree about scrubs being "summer wear". Their use is determined by the type of working environment: critical / intensive care units, delivery suites etc where formal uniform isn't always appropriate. But in all my working life, I never took scrubs home to launder

Okay slower then

"notanan unclear why I should cease political sniping as you put it?"

You miss-quoted me/mistook me for another poster.

Again. I didnt say "political sniping"
I didnt say anything about politics to you. At all.

You made a mistake when you addressed my directly as if I had

Got it yet? Cause I'm not using big words here?

I haven’t a clue what you are talking about which I suppose rather bears out your unpleasant remark

notanan what a charmer you are.
gonna go with that instead of "sorry for confusing you with another poster, my mistake?"
Okay!

And also why they wont be taking anyones custom made scrubs.

May as well be un uniform.

Both have to be washed at home. But the poster saying they may be for the volunteers or returners may have a point

notanan what a charmer you are.

Notanan2 your post of 18:26 isn’t entirely correct. My dd will be a qualified doctor next Friday. She supplies her own scrubs because the hospital doesn’t stock items small enough for her. She takes them home to launder because she’d never get them back if they went into hospital laundry.

That is actually exactly what I did say.

As the laundry is sent out to centralised commercial laundries you never get your item back. You only send and recieve like for like items which are actually owned/supplied by the laundries in the first place

That is why they dont do uniforms or ant items allocated to or belong to a specific person.

Actually, having re-read the post, I don’t think I quite understand what you're saying. So ‘scrub round’ my previous post.

Of course anyone can join in. But 'anyone' could as well be talking bullsh*t as talking fact.

Its a discussion on an anonymous public chat forum not a lit review ?

Notanan2 your post of 18:26 isn’t entirely correct. My dd will be a qualified doctor next Friday. She supplies her own scrubs because the hospital doesn’t stock items small enough for her. She takes them home to launder because she’d never get them back if they went into hospital laundry.

Hancock suggested it should be worn for the entire session yesterday.

notanan unclear why I should cease political sniping as you put it?
I think you're just unclear in general ?
I didnt say that