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Do you ever feel this will never be over?

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Greymar Fri 10-Apr-20 19:34:35

I am trying to be pleasant, enjoy the garden, chat to my husband and so on. Sometimes I feel I am hanging by a thread.
Just watching Rick Stein in France and I have the strngest sensation that this crisis will never end.

Moggycuddler Sat 11-Apr-20 10:41:54

My main worry right now is running out of staple foods and being forced to go out for shopping. Upto now, my husband and I (both somewhat vulnerable) have not had to venture further than our little garden in weeks. (We have been exercising in our house.) Feels very dangerous outside. But it's getting harder to find online slots for grocery deliveries. I do feel very sorry for older and vulnerable people who live alone. They must feel extremely isolated.

Nannapat1 Sat 11-Apr-20 10:41:04

I definitely have good and bad days: happier when the suns shines and we can get into the garden. At the beginning, I planned to eat well and do exercises every day: I've eaten badly ( have to eat what we can get) and only done the exercises once!
Same here with films and old TV programmes: already thinking 'Why aren't they socially distancing!'
Do I think it will end? Yes, of course. Even China has started to withdraw some its most stringent measures: all things will pass...

GagaJo Sat 11-Apr-20 10:38:37

I tried to report a crowd gathering yesterday. It wasn't 'life or limb' emergency so the route to use was an online form. Which wasn't working.

polnan Sat 11-Apr-20 10:37:06

of course it will end, in that life changes... humans adapt..
for me ,living alone, for the first time ever, and isolated.. well
it will end for me, when I die.. hope it is a quick death and not drawn out..

and no , I am NOT being negative, just a realist..

Bridgeit Sat 11-Apr-20 10:35:33

PoppyD, you can report them to the police.
We have similar experiences with some thoughtless 2nd homeowners not complying . Best wishes

lemongrove Sat 11-Apr-20 10:29:49

growstuff.....what facts give you the info to say that those who are flouting the rules are supporters of this government’?
I suspect it’s your own wishful thinking coming into play.

Of course this will end, but is worrying for our health while it lasts, which is until there’s a vaccine.
I look forward to travelling around again and plan trips in my head, always better to stay positive if possible.

farview Sat 11-Apr-20 10:26:08

Coolgran I also felt absolutely overwhelmed last night..just came from nowhere..still dont feel okay .feeling quite down! Want to hug my daughter whose in the middle east, and her babies..when I left there in January..I wish I'd held them all tighter and longer....my son and family in Australia..I do my upmost to sound happy when on the phone to them..my two sons and their families here in the UK live quite nearby..but we cant hug ..just chat through the window...it all hurts...
Made worse by H shouting through to me all the horrendous news..at the moment I dont want to know..yes that's burying my head in the sand..but just now I need to do that..I've always been a 'doer' for everyone. thought I was strong..but I'm not...you all cant see the tears rolling down my cheeks..
Take good care all of you ??

Franbern Sat 11-Apr-20 10:25:48

What are people getting their ideas that this will lead to a world with more equality and social justice? Sorry, - we already have a government member happily talking about how much money he, and other like him, can make from this.
More people will be much poorer over the next several years, austerity measures will hit virtually all of us (unless you are already a millionaire/billionaire). Life, as it was at the beginning of this year, will be looked back on as the halycon days.
I am really not trying to be the pessimistic - I am normally very much a 'cup is half full' person - but do have to be realistic. So many people will lose their homes, both mortgage and rented, property prices will crash (not necessarily a bad thing), many, many business, small and large will go into receivership. Many many more people will not have jobs to go back to. Prices on all important commodities will rise, and rise.
And despite all the weekly applause - I bet there will not be much of any real pay increase for any of the essential workers.
Do remember when - not very long ago - a bill was discussed in the House of Commons to raise the salaries of nurses and other NHS ancillary workers was defeated, MP's on the government benches stood and applauded that defeat

GagaJo Sat 11-Apr-20 10:24:05

Again, Eglantine, I agree. I started a thread called 'excuses' and was hugely castigated for it. 'But we're following the rules.' was the cry. All those people following the rules and STILL getting ill. I share your despair.

Eglantine21 Sat 11-Apr-20 10:20:57

Sorry Greymar. Posted before I saw yours. I’ll retreat (probably best for my own sanity anyway?)

Eglantine21 Sat 11-Apr-20 10:19:23

I agree Franbern that most of us will eventually catch CV and that what we are trying to do is to spread the infection so that those who need medical help can access it.

What is necessary is necessary. It just that people don’t seem to be able to tell the difference between what they want to do and what they have to do.

I have family in medicine who every day treat people who just made that trip they didn’t have to make.
Who say “but I stayed at a safe distance”.

2m isn’t safe. It reduces the risk. If you have to get food you have to. You don’t have to have visit your family or get an Easter egg to take round.

90% sounds encouraging. But my friend would include herself in that. So would several of the posters whose tales of what they’re doing leave me in despair.

GagaJo Sat 11-Apr-20 10:15:44

I like to think of a world with more equality. I hope one of the good things to come from this will be all of the government ministers who have have had NHS treatment will now value and see the importance of the NHS. BJ in particular. Having had his life saved, SURELY he will now see the need?

Greymar Sat 11-Apr-20 10:07:02

Egaltine, this is such a great sharing thread, I don't want to start bickering.

I do think there is a balance to be had and we must protect our mental health. Some may be more robust than others. The Government permits one form of exercise a day. If we see a neighbour (at a same distance) it's OK to wave and smile? I think?

Rosalyn69 Sat 11-Apr-20 10:04:15

I think that for us oldies the world we know is changing forever. The youngsters will adapt much more easily. My son is looking forward to it - to more equality and social justice.
I have stayed at home for four weeks now apart from one trip to collect a prescription. My son’s wife is vulnerable and they have stayed home apart from food shopping.
I’m not afraid. It is what it is. If I get this virus and need hospitalisation the chances are I will die.
But at the moment I get up and embrace each new day

timetogo2016 Sat 11-Apr-20 10:00:27

I don`t think it will end totaly.
I think this will be an annual thing pretty much like the FLU.
I hope i am wrong though.

Alexa Sat 11-Apr-20 09:55:01

Franbern, I hope and pray politicians will learn the lesson that short termism does not work, even in the shorter term.

Alexa Sat 11-Apr-20 09:52:04

The Manchester police explained that those who indulged in street and house parties with bouncy castles and DJs and stuff , had "chaotic lifestyles". Police are aware of habitually chaotic people in their areas of control.

It's harder to explain the rich people with second homes, private aeroplanes and boats who break the rules. I put most law-breaking down to subcultures of people who really believe the rules don't apply to them.

Franbern Sat 11-Apr-20 09:51:36

BUT,,,,,,until a vaccine is found and tested to be safe (about 12-18 months), all the lockdown is designed to do is to spread out the cases of people becoming very ill with his virus. Unless you all think that we should ALL stay in lockdown for the next 12-18 months, then we have to accept that between 70-80% of us will contract this disease sometime in the next few months.
Fortunately, for the over-whelming majority the symptoms will be nasty, but probably not as bad as a normal real dose of influenza and will not require any sort of hospitalisation, for a minority - they will require hospital and professional nursing care. For a significant, but small minority it will result in death.
It is obvious that there is no way the current lockdown can go on indefinitely. Food shortages are going to get worse as farmers are unable to harvest their crops, milk is already being thrown away, etc. Financial circumstances of many people and families is fast going from bad to dire.
The real tragedy is that the government was warned about all of this in 2016 - and the warnings seem to remarkably accurate, but decided they did not want to spend the extra money on purchasing ventilators, etc. etc.
The mis-leadership in this country in the first few weeks, is putting the people here amongst the worst (per capita) of death from this virus.
I also dread to see the eventual figures that come out of self-harm and suicide and serious mental breakdowns including post traumatic stress syndrome that will damage so many people for decades to come.

Alexa Sat 11-Apr-20 09:47:39

It will never be over, my feelings are irrelevant. This event will change the world so it's no surprise old grannies are upset.

Urmstongran Sat 11-Apr-20 09:37:19

Transpires that 9 out of 10 of us ARE being sensible so that’s a good thought to hang onto, especially since the government have admitted they didn’t expect compliance to be so high!

Turns out the U.K. is behaving very sensibly, on the whole.
?

GagaJo Sat 11-Apr-20 09:24:54

Totally agree Eglantine.

GagaJo Sat 11-Apr-20 09:24:07

Lots of accounts of people out socialising. Local photos in addition to nationwide ones.

I genuinely believe they need to make these criminal offences. I also think we need troops on the streets to quell rebellion.

I really despair of the uk. We can't even adhere to the existing very lax rules to save lives. We already have a horrific death rate and our mortality rate is going to mirror the US if we don't do something drastic.

Eglantine21 Sat 11-Apr-20 09:21:04

One problem is that lots of people think they are observing lockdown and don’t see their little ‘outings’ or visits as anything wrong.

I had a phone call from a friend yesterday who blithely told me how she goes every morning to pick up her paper, got the Easter eggs, popped them round (safe distancing in the garden) then went off to get the Easter leg of lamb and one or two bits, had a chat over the fence with the neighbour.......

She really believes she’s safe.

On Gransnet you only have to read the posts to see how many people are just doing those one or two little things that they didn’t really have to do.

There is no safe distance. Will anybody listen?

Coolgran65 Sat 11-Apr-20 09:14:19

GagaJo Thankyou. I hope everyone has their own piglet ready to be a shoulder. And we in turn can be piglet.

Chewbacca Sat 11-Apr-20 09:11:37

But Maggie more lives will be ruined, or ended completely, if we don't all adhere to the lockdown for as long as it takes to stop this virus from spreading further. Yes, businesses will fail, education will, be stalled and many people will suffer with mental ill health; but the alternative is too terrible to comprehend. We must all stay in. For as long as it takes.