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Neighbour breaking lockdown

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Bluenose10 Wed 15-Apr-20 23:05:45

I’ve recently noticed that my neighbour is accepting visitors during lockdown......mainly family. There is no social distancing and everyone seems to have full access to their house and garden. I’m not the kind of person that ‘snitches’ to the authorities but, I’m sorely tempted to report this breach of lockdown rules. Whilst I am envious that this person has family contact at this time, I’m more annoyed that they are maybe putting myself and other neighbours at risk as well as their own family members; and whoever else comes into contact with them. If I do decide to either speak directly to my neighbour or report this irresponsible behaviour, I will lose my neighbour’s friendship for sure. What would you do in my position? Could there be a valid reason for them having family and friends visit? ........the current Stay at Home advice suggests not. I’m doing my bit to support the Government's policy by staying home and only going out when absolutely necessary. Yes, I miss my family as much as the next person so this behaviour makes ‘my blood boil’.

Caro57 Fri 17-Apr-20 19:11:43

I would report them, crass stupidity, ignorance, selfishness and downright dangerous

Summerlove Fri 17-Apr-20 19:05:02

Dont make others lives more a trial than it already is.

Shouldn’t this cut both ways? Not just “don’t snitch on people having family over” but maybe “don’t have family over, and possibly infect more people”?

Why do expressions like this only ever seem to want to defend the people doing things the wrong way?

Sillyoldfool Fri 17-Apr-20 19:02:49

I do wonder why we bother taking it seriously when plane loads of people from all over are arriving every day & dispersing unchecked amongst us all plus illegals floating in across the Channel.

Summerlove Fri 17-Apr-20 18:54:55

I find it so interesting that people are saying “don’t report, it’s not worth falling out over”.

If my neighbours were blatantly ignoring the very serious advice to not mix households, I’d never respect them again. So either way, we would no longer have a relationship due to their entitlement.

3nanny6 Fri 17-Apr-20 18:38:30

I think we could all find loved ones we want to visit only the message is if you do not live in that particular household then do not do it. It is not judging someone and all of us need our loved ones. The risk is not minimal in fact you could be signing their death warrant.
If an elderly neighbour has a daughter then the daughter should move in with her for awhile and do things properly that is the point too many people are flouting the rules.

Starblaze Fri 17-Apr-20 18:28:41

The reality is an element of visiting has to happen or we will be losing people in other ways. My elderly neighbour has her daughter visiting as otherwise she doesn't eat. She already looks painfully thin. We need to not be so quick to judge others for the simple crime of loving each other and not coping alone. The risk in these situations are minimal.

3nanny6 Fri 17-Apr-20 18:21:52

I have read the posts on this thread and also posted myself, however in the last two hours from my bedroom window I watched two large ambulances and one small one arrive at a house just over to the back of me. All paramedics kitted up in gowns and masks and running into the house with equipment and bags. Several other occupants of the house stood outside all looking upset. The father was eventually wheeled out surrounded by the paramedics and some machinery on him. The ambulance then blue lighted to the hospital. All those people/neighbours that think they do not have to follow the rules should be ashamed of themselves. It really has shaken me up to see this close hand as so far it has felt it that only happens in other towns, it is very scary.

Chewbacca Fri 17-Apr-20 18:21:28

Agree 100% with that Rocknroll, very well said.

Rocknroll5me Fri 17-Apr-20 18:05:24

Yes I don't think you should think of reporting. You do what you believe is right, obey the advice. And that is it really. I live next door to an HMO (shared household of 5 adults - they have barbecues in the garden) ..it's legal. People are coping best they can. Some surprise us. None of it is completely rational. My worst experience was being accused of filming people exercising in the park. I wouldn't dream of doing that and it really upset me. It's like we are on the edge of distrusting neighbours like living under the Stasi. Resist this. Trust your friends and neighbours. People are getting paranoid. The police dont want to know. I really do think people are coping and obeying very well...and we need to. Dont make others lives more a trial than it already is.

NanaRayna Fri 17-Apr-20 17:02:06

Has anyone else seen the article about the disabled lady who has been in tears since the police told her that she was having 'too many visits'? Those carers, hey! Coming back day after day, and sometimes two or three times in a day? What a scandal!
My point is that it may be the family are supporting the neighbour, not just turning up for jollies. I'd have to be VERY sure of my facts before I'd turn someone in. And very sure I could spend the rest of my life living next door to someone who hated my guts.

Sheila1952 Fri 17-Apr-20 15:53:31

I am also seeing similar behaviour by my neighbour and feel extremely cross especially because her visitors have travelled from Holland to Berlin, which is where I live. I would not report her but my relationship with her will now definitely change. I also don't think it's fair to read comments like Chebacca wrote.

EthelJ Fri 17-Apr-20 15:49:44

I do not see how they could possibly be putting you at risk if you are sticking to the rules
Keeping to the rules doesn't guarantee you won't get the virus if other people are mixing. You can have it and pass it on without knowing you have it as some people are asymptomatic. You can pick it up from surfaces without knowing. My daughter has stuck to the rules and she has symptoms. But she works in a hospital and has obviously picked it up from someone either there or on her way there. Possibly from someone who had it without knowing it, and didn't adhere to social distancing rules.
We are all missing our families. I can understand why you are upset OP.

juneo Fri 17-Apr-20 14:54:30

My daughter is front line NHS, and this is why they are in so much danger! If they are bending the rules on this what else are they doing! Report them, is unfair on all of us doing the right thing and so unfair on the NHS! You can do anominously!!

123kitty Fri 17-Apr-20 14:36:16

It's great to take this opportunity to vent your anger on any subject with the rest of us, with very split responses here. As no-one really knows the circumstances of what goes on in someone else's home, I would not be reporting them.

Chardy Fri 17-Apr-20 14:18:47

My mum used to live in a block of flats, and referred her neighbours as nosy. I used to ask her what's the difference between nosy and keeping an eye out for everyone (but maybe taking it a little bit too far).
Yes these people are affecting us, not just directly. If someone walked past you with a gun, would you ignore it because they weren't shooting you?
The longer this goes on because people aren't sticking to the rules, the more people will die. And it could one of your family

Washerwoman Fri 17-Apr-20 14:02:48

Maybe it's me.Maybe Im parochial. I'm avoiding the news lately anyway in my current state.Sick of the politicising generally.It's the little things in a community that make it or blight it.Litter,dog poo,anti-social loud music blaring out,burning nasty rubbish in your garden.I don't go around telling people off .I do litter pick a lot.And feel cross the dog foulers get dog owners a bad name.I accept there will always be idiots.But this crisis is showing a lot of great stuff going on in communities too.Maybe let's all focus on that.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 17-Apr-20 14:02:20

The point is not whether OP is at risk through her neighbour's behaviour.

She makes it clear that she is concerned about those her neighbour's family come into contact with.

Regulations that the government have put into place during this crisis are being ignored.

I think OP should ask herself whether if one of her neighbour's visitors got into a car and drove off, although obviously drunk, she would report that to the police? I know I would, and what they are doing is probably nearly as dangerous as drunk driving.

3nanny6 Fri 17-Apr-20 13:37:22

Bluenose10; I know the feeling and I have neighbours doing the same thing, in fact they have been flouting rules since the beginning of lockdown. I went to look on the Police website and there was a form to put all the details on and you remain anonymous. Somehow it made me feel like an informant and although they are in the wrong I for the moment am totally ignoring them and keeping as far away as possible from them.
We have now been given another three weeks of lockdown and my neighbours will possibly continue like they have. I think until deaths are closely associated to their own families then they just think that they are untouchable by the virus. Sadly this is the case by many that flout the rules.

Elrel Fri 17-Apr-20 13:36:30

Give the police a break, they are understaffed. Many are unwell or have had the virus and returned to work as soon as possible. Police stations are much emptier than normal yet, as other posters have said, crime goes on, domestic violence has increased, mental health issues occur.
Of course they will deal with huge house parties but don’t bother them with minor issues. They are an emergency service, not nanny to listen to telltales.

Shandy3 Fri 17-Apr-20 13:15:59

Unless they ate carers there is no valid reason!
This behaviour will increase our lockdown time!
Report them, explain you do not want your name mentioned.
The police, very sadly are having to deal with a great deal of this!

Washerwoman Fri 17-Apr-20 13:08:49

Hannah.I think that's an unfortunate analogy comparing to German' s snitching on neighbours sheltering Jews !Effectively condemning them to death or the very least the death camps and immense suffering.
Reporting a big house party in a pandemic is saving lives by limiting the spread.The police had to break up about 600 in Manchester at the start of lockdown.I will reiterate my friend hasn't reported.She isn't going to.But it's not nice she put in a position she feels she should.Fortunately the majority seem to grasp how viruses spread.And don't want to turn vigilante. As I said this thread just gives them an outlet to express frustration.I'm just feeling hers today as she does know the circumstances in this particular instance,and is incredulous at how her supposedly intelligent friend is behaving.Plus as I'm isolating from my DH with a high temperature and aches,fortunately seems a mild dose picked up who knows where as I've only been out to shop once previously and walk the dogs in a quiet area ,this virus seems very real at the moment.

Sparklefizz Fri 17-Apr-20 13:02:26

MissAdventure I long ago accepted that some people are arses. Having a moan is important in my acceptance journey.

What a great mantra!! I love it. grin

blue60 Fri 17-Apr-20 13:02:16

Mind your own business. Keep your own distance. Envy does you no good.

ALANaV Fri 17-Apr-20 13:00:28

Sadly this seems to have turned some people into vigilantes ….keep your distance from others as required. I would think there is no excuse for reporting someone who is simply minding their own business and getting through this as best as they can , which we all are. There is a Primary school next to me still open parents (those having to work) drop off the children in the mornings ...mostly they are in the playground all day ...the teachers and staff are much reduced in numbers an they all seem happy ! the problem is not so much in who gathers in next door's garden as in the fact that no one knows who is a carrier, who has it, who may have recovered from it ...could be you or I ...so judge ye not lest ye be judged…….in other words, as I do, mind your own business ……..

GrannyAnnie2010 Fri 17-Apr-20 12:31:14

Washerwoman - what an excellent analogy.

On our street, it's just a matter of time before someone knocks on our door to get us to clap for the NHS, seeing as we're one of the few households who don't do the clap. These are neighbours who are dead smug about clapping for two minutes on Thursdays but have loads of visitors in and out constantly - all family or friends who've had to travel to get here (not trades people). They flout the rules, going out in groups bringing back piles of toilet roll and sanitizers, and don't swerve for the two meters when on the pavement walking.

I can't wait for one of them to ask me why I don't join the Thursday clap, just so that I can tell them what I think of their hypocrisy.

I think it's futile reporting neighbours who break the rules but there are other ways of opening up a dialogue or show disapproval.