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There is alas no cure for stupidity

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MawB Fri 24-Apr-20 07:19:25

US President Donald Trump has been lambasted by the medical community after suggesting research into whether coronavirus might be treated by injecting disinfectant into the body.
He also appeared to propose irradiating patients' bodies with UV light, an idea dismissed by a doctor at the briefing.
Another of his officials had moments earlier said sunlight and disinfectant were known to kill the infection.
Mr Trump's own public health agencies (unsurprisingly) warn against bleach as a medicine.

geekesse Fri 24-Apr-20 12:00:41

Farnorth, Flanders and Swann were poking fun at English attitudes and ridiculing them, not making a claim to any sense of pride, I assure you. I find nationalism of any kind ridiculous.

lizzypopbottle Fri 24-Apr-20 11:57:02

There are so many theories being touted about prevention or cure. The latest one I read suggested that people under thirty might be protected by having had the MMR vaccine. It occurred to me that most people of our generation would have developed immunity to measles, mumps and rubella by catching those common infections as children! (I remember the misery of lying in a darkened room with measles, which is on the increase because many parents are shunning the MMR vaccine through flawed information.) I don't think I ever had mumps, but my sister did, so maybe I was asymptomatic. She had a horrible case of chicken pox but I had three spots, no other symptoms and a fortnight off school! Woo hoo! I nursed my two older children through mumps. So, are we protected by our continued immunity to those infections? I doubt it. Our older children had the vaccination as a catch up in their teens but my daughter is pretty sure she's had the Covid virus. Her husband went to the Cheltenham Festival and was ill days later. Bad decision, with hindsight...

Direne3 Fri 24-Apr-20 11:56:55

grin

GNan Fri 24-Apr-20 11:55:43

The most depressing thing is that I bet he is re-elected!

Camelotclub Fri 24-Apr-20 11:50:58

I wish he'd use himself as the first guinea pig! I have a blood blister on my arm, it's ugly, distended, red and bulging. I called it 'Donald'.

Romola Fri 24-Apr-20 11:43:09

Trump: one can only hope that the voters in the US will come to their senses in November. But what if he decides to cancel elections because of Covid19? What's the betting?
And by the way, my Scottish brother-in-law says that what most annoys the Scots about the English is that the English can't be bothered to hate the Scots back.

janipans Fri 24-Apr-20 11:36:43

I think the doctors should just have told him that was a wonderful idea ... and offered for him to be the first to have the treatment in thanks for his great insight and as a show of his great leadership!!!

FarNorth Fri 24-Apr-20 11:32:12

Yet more leftist drivel.
Politics shouldn't be allowed on here.
Trump2020

confused Genuinely confused why anyone would say this.

FarNorth Fri 24-Apr-20 11:28:30

geekesse, as a Scots child, I used to think that English people just bravely put up with being English.
I was astonished to realise that they were actually proud of being English.

On the subject of Trump, his reasoning and method of speaking seem like those of a badly behaved child of around 5-6 years old.

silvercollie Fri 24-Apr-20 11:27:41

I suppose it is just possible that Mr Trump's continual occupancy of the Presidential Chair is some what expedient to the real rulers of America.

The moment he is no longer necessary to the real Powers That Be, then he will be removed.

In the mean-time, he is a constant source of horrified amusement to the rest of us.

Maremia Fri 24-Apr-20 11:26:10

No excuses, but I think the Americans, who want an end to lockdown, have no financial or state or medical support with out having a job. We are much luckier, most places, in Europe. Yes, those guns are scary.

Saggi Fri 24-Apr-20 11:23:52

Isn't it time somebody in this terrified administration called ‘time’ on this man, and his toxic utterances. Surely it would only take 2 or 3 competent doctors to have him quietly put somewhere to ‘recover himself’ .....and then for him to drift out from under the public gaze.... bit like our own Prince Philip, who’s drifted away from our eyeline.

luluaugust Fri 24-Apr-20 11:20:29

Surely what he is suggesting was the kind of experiment carried out by Mengele.?

Gwenisgreat1 Fri 24-Apr-20 11:08:56

Actually it's quite frightening that this huge nation has such a huge Ass as it's leader!! Whatever next?

Craftycat Fri 24-Apr-20 11:07:57

I heard him on radio 4 news this morning- I could not believe it but on reflection it is not so surprising- that man is a total moron & the quicker he goes the better.
I still cannot believe the Americans were daft enough to put him in power.

Elegran Fri 24-Apr-20 11:05:49

Did anyone else read a science fiction story years ago about a child born with strange "powers" ? He could cause things to happen, just by wanting to. As a baby he could hurt his mother if his feeds were a bit late, or his nappy (diaper for US readers) wasn't comfortable. As he got older his powers got stronger, until he could strike people dead if they frustrated him, and cause objects, people, houses, towns and whole chunks of countryside to just vanish into nothingness, until he and his family and friends were living in a small village with a few fields around it, and nothing else on earth existed. Sometimes a few people would plan to prevent this , but he could also read their minds, so he foresaw their attempts to kill him (the only way to stop him) and they joined the majority in eternal banishment into space, or a grave under the cornfield (which was flourishing)

I found it disturbing even when I read it as fiction. As prophecy it is terrifying!

annodomini Fri 24-Apr-20 11:01:26

Of course, it's not even true that the majority of Americans voted for Trump. If it wasn't for that arcane Electoral College system, Hillary Clinton would be the President facing the challenge of Covid19. She had 48% of the popular vote as opposed to Trump's 47% - one million ahead.

geekesse Fri 24-Apr-20 10:54:35

Flanders and Swann. A Song of Patriotic Prejudice

The English, the English, the English are best
I wouldn’t give tuppence for all of the rest.

The rottenest bits of these islands of ours
We’ve left in the hands of three unfriendly powers
Examine the Irishman, Welshman or Scot
You’ll find he’s a stinker, as likely as not.

The Scotsman is mean, as we’re all well aware
And bony and blotchy and covered with hair
He eats salty porridge, he works all the day
And he hasn’t got bishops to show him the way!

The English, the English, the English are best
I wouldn’t give tuppence for all of the rest.
The Irishman now our contempt is beneath
He sleeps in his boots and he lies through his teeth

He blows up policemen, or so I have heard
And blames it on Cromwell and William the Third!
The English are noble, the English are nice,
And worth any other at double the price

The Welshman’s dishonest and cheats when he can
And little and dark, more like monkey than man
He works underground with a lamp in his hat
And he sings far too loud, far too often, and flat!

And crossing the Channel, one cannot say much
Of French and the Spanish, the Danish or Dutch
The Germans are German, the Russians are red,
And the Greeks and Italians eat garlic in bed!

The English are moral, the English are good
And clever and modest and misunderstood.

And all the world over, each nation’s the same
They’ve simply no notion of playing the game
They argue with umpires, they cheer when they’ve won
And they practice beforehand which ruins the fun!

The English, the English, the English are best
So up with the English and down with the rest.
It’s not that they’re wicked or natuarally bad
It’s knowing they’re foreign that makes them so mad!

maggiemay2 Fri 24-Apr-20 10:54:29

He is a total buffoon. I watched the media address and if you watch Doctor Birx face, she is stunned. How she can continue to work for this narcissistic bully is beyond me. Now don't get me started of who the hell votes for him!

gran5up Fri 24-Apr-20 10:53:27

Remember Spitting Image with their slogan,"The President's brain is missing"? That was Reagan who was later diagnosed with Alzheimer's...

Annaram1 Fri 24-Apr-20 10:50:39

If anyone tries this amazing cure or preventative treatment in America and they die, I wonder what their President will say?
"Fake news."

jacq10 Fri 24-Apr-20 10:49:42

I have been following Trump's daily briefings on CNN around 11.30pm but gave up two nights ago. I just couldn't believe the rubbish he was spouting and the way he handled the reporters questions. I also don't understand how his "team" on the briefings with him who are, unlike him, educated academics and medical experts can carry on backing him!

Aepgirl Fri 24-Apr-20 10:49:15

This man is dangerous, and his dreadful statements should not be broadcast as there are some people who believe what he says.

maryhoffman37 Fri 24-Apr-20 10:46:09

He has such a low IQ.

b1zzle Fri 24-Apr-20 10:45:09

... and Boris who is still recovering from this dreadful pandemic actually put a telephone conversation with this man on his high priority list? Why?