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Can't do right for doing wrong

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3211123rjc Mon 04-May-20 15:24:07

We have tried our very best to remain locked in, order as much as we can online, even though delivery slots are nearly 2 weeks apart, and needs to be left for essential workers. Do Click and Collect, haven't seen friends since the beginning of all of this.

However this is not enough for my children(39&44), I have been called irresponsible, and idiot and get this, F**king stupid to go out to collect medicines/walk the dog within a mile of home and part of our daily exercise. Apparently all of this can be done by local community help, or volunteers, which are busy dealing with people who have greater needs than us, we are both healthy (fingers crossed) aged 66 and 73 and not in a vulnerable group. But somehow we are both stupid and its our age group that helps to spread this virus around.

I responded to that the information as above to them both, who by the way both live over 200 mls away, and reminded one of them that their past behaviour of the drug misuse nearly killed them to which I thought was bloody irresponsible, stupid and idiotic, in fact it broke my heart, watching them in hospital after having a heart attack after using too much cocaine, and even once rang me in the middle of a bender saying he wanted to end it all, and still does break my heart thinking of how they were. I have been told that to bring that up after 9 years was not the same, and I should let go, and maybe they are right, I never told them at the time, in my experience people going through that wouldn't have heard me anyway.

So now I have been sent to Coventry for that and the other has played the "do it for the grandchildren" card and wont talk to me either.

Am I wrong to ask for a bit of respect, even if they don't agree with me, and I know their concern is for the right reasons, but why should I be spoken to like that. I told one that I couldn't be held responsible for the entire group of over 70's in the country, which they didn't like.

One of them has mail delivered here and I just sent a message asking what to do with it, a curt reply came back and when I said "please?" I have received a message back saying if I didn't apologise for the serious line I crossed then they had nothing to say, but by doing all the drug misuse and further actions after, losing job, moving back in with us, helping with living cost etc,hurt, but apparently MY actions really damaged our relationship, no acknowledgement of the hurt that was caused, and never has been. So there you have it , Cant do right for doing wrong, but just now I'm in tears, they are so cruel. So once again I will not speak to them for a while, I'm too angry, hurt, and quite frankly amazed at the level of anger displayed towards me, apparently I'm lucky that they still tolerate me, and I'm told the reason the drug episode still affects me is quilt, guilt because both of them are emotional wreaks?? a lot due to the terrible time getting away from their father, and me thinking I was getting them to a better place, OMG, wrong again sad

And all of this started because I wouldn't do as I was being told (told, not asked) to do over this Coronavirus lockdown.

Are there any kind words from anyone please, I turn to this group as I have no family other than my children and of course my husband, who is not their father and not as emotionally involved, so its a lonely place sometimes.

Newatthis Tue 05-May-20 18:08:18

If they are going to verbally abuse you then it's you that has the choice. Either you let them or you don't. If and when you speak to them soon, and let them make the first move, then just don't tell them what you are doing, I am sure that they don't tell you what they are up to. AC's always like to blame their parents for their psychological well-being and seldom take any responsibility when it all goes wrong. Life is too short. Try to remove yourself from it all.

Kryptonite Tue 05-May-20 18:01:37

I am so sorry to hear this and send you a great big hug. There is no excuse for children, of any age, to treat their parent like this when all you have done is be a good mum. I really do sympathise. I feel kind of glad they are so far away from you and this is just down the phone. If they do this again, just say that you are putting the phone down. The worse thing is using the grandchildren as some kind of bargaining too. Unforgivable and cruel. I have some similar experience. We mums always blame ourselves, but we shouldn't. Just keep doing your daily exercise and stay healthy. I hope your kids will apologise to you very soon and show some respect. Be good to yourself. Another hug. xx

cas58 Tue 05-May-20 17:53:52

Wow, at their ages and the drug stuff was only 9 years ago! It's not like they were dumb ass teenagers. They're jerks and 200 miles away. Yipee.
I don't like them using the grandchildren as emotional blackmail either.
Don't tell them what you're doing. Carry on you and hubby and enjoy yourselves. Make you happy.
If they ever speak to you like that again you must put them in their place(s).
Ya got a will? hmm?

Ydoc Tue 05-May-20 17:46:10

My god whoever do your children think they are. Reading this has made me very angry. I too have some experience of a daughter who believes she know so much better than me and often leaves me speechless. But your children beggers belief. How rude and bossy they are. They have no right to speak to you in that way. I would treat them with the contempt they deserve. Just live your life and try and enjoy as much as you can despite them x

Buddleja Tue 05-May-20 17:22:55

Rudeness can sometimes be a sign of anxiety and I agree with the suggestion that your children are worried about you. The older age group is vulnerable in two ways. Firstly we are more likely to get the virus because it attaches itself to a protein that your cells make more of as you get older. Secondly once we have contracted the virus we are more likely to have a bad time with it or even die.

tomtom12 Tue 05-May-20 17:15:17

I do under stand where you are coming from I was in the same thing now I dont tell them nothing all is cosy when they ring only say what you want to say older children think that thay should know all but NO in my book enjoy your life dont bough down to them

janeainsworth Tue 05-May-20 17:04:14

Not to mention that 1 in 12 will go up if infection rates get too high again (likely this winter) because over 70s just won't get treated
Do stop scaremongering please, starblaze.
The idea of deliberately withholding care and treatment from anyone based on their age would be anathema to anyone working in the NHS.

3211123rjc Tue 05-May-20 16:57:20

Once again, thanks to all of you for the kind advise and words of wisdom, you know for all the years at work, I use to advise people not to fire off an email in anger, and then look what I did!!!! Anyway its done can't take it back, but everyone is right about taking some time out and step back and be kind to myself, I will. I'm lucky to have a husband who( and don't anyone tell him) is a star and a lovely man who knows I'm hurting so keeps checking on me if we are not in the same room.
You are all lovely people, and I am amazed at all the kind, thoughtful posts.
My daughter has recently opened a family group WhatsApp so I get to see what the children are up to.
I'm just feeling bruised today and did gardening, haven't baked yet, my hubby might think I was really illshock, but the day has gone well and that's partly to all of you who have taken the time to be kind. May you all have the best lockin you possibly can and keep well and safe.

I need to apologise, but not just yet, and everyone is right about being independent, I usually am, just didn't see this one coming

1404kiwi Tue 05-May-20 16:57:20

I refer to these type of "children" as Kidults - kids who don't really fully become adults. I'm sure that they had to deal with "challenges" in their childhood as did you within that relationship with their father BUT they are grown ups and they too must take responsibility for their actions and manner dealing with you NOW. Write to them simply dont get bogged down in too many words and apoligise for bringing up the drug business but you were hurt by they attitude to you as you were only following the official guidelines ( you are allowed to walk the dog and you must get your medications). Make the offer that If they want to go to Family Mediation with a good family therapist to discuss any remaining issues you are more than happy to do so BUT from now on you no longer accept being spoken to in a negative manner just as you wont speak to them in that manner..........if they dont take you up on the offer great then you can assume everything is sorted and if they do accept the offer great you can all work together on resolution.

and if they keep going with the verbal abuse ....cut off contact and cut them out of your will. It is not acceptable for anyone to abuse anyone regardless of what "title" you wear (Mum/Aunt/Dad/Son etc)

Jasbug Tue 05-May-20 15:47:57

We should be very careful about putting labels on people.In this situation all we can do is to fair and kind Nobody should be called an idiot by anyone least of all by those we love.Have belief in yourself Don’t let others define who you are ,

Purplepixie Tue 05-May-20 14:52:48

I really feel for you. It sounds like they have drained you in the past but don't let them get away with it in the future. They should be on bended knees to you. Don't tell them what you do. Step back and don't Contact them. Take care and stay strong.

Jaxie Tue 05-May-20 14:40:59

They are in the wrong, not you. You have supported them through difficult times and they should respect you for that and everything else you’ve done for them. You are deeply hurt, but trust that you are right to feel as you do. Let them fester in their nastiness as one day they’ll realise how wrong they’ve been ( probably when it’s too late for them to let you know this!) The older generation should be treated with respect, however different their world view is from that of the younger generation. I’m with you all the way.

TrendyNannie6 Tue 05-May-20 14:36:57

Bless your heart, I can’t believe how your adult children spoke to you, how disrespectful, I’ve four AC in 30,s and 40,s and no way would they speak to me or their dad in that way! They can obviously dish it out, but can’t take retaliation, I certainly wouldn’t be apologising for anything, your children sound awful, you sound like a good mum to me, I also wouldn’t be telling them anything what we do would be our business, you do the things you believe are right for you 3211 hope things improve for you.

Phloembundle Tue 05-May-20 14:18:02

My son would never disrespect me in that way. You should ask them just who in hell they think they are. Don't speak to them again until they apologise.

Jennyluck Tue 05-May-20 14:05:54

As someone else said, a mothers place is in the wrong.
I totally understand you bringing up their past, after the way they spoke to you.
Like you, I would never have spoken to my mother the way one of my children spoke to me when we had a falling out.
I had respect for her.
You sound like a good and lovely mother.
We can only do our best as mothers. Sometimes it’s so hard, we are mothers after all not their friends. ???

Rosina Tue 05-May-20 14:03:02

That's an extremely hurtful stance to take with you - I am so sorry you are enduring this. They need to be reminded that you are entitled to the same respect and courtesy that they would show others.

growstuff Tue 05-May-20 13:55:57

Exactly, Mistyfluff. It's the nature of some children to be bossy. I'm no psychologist, but I suspect it's something to do with the need to be the alpha person in a household.

Mistyfluff8 Tue 05-May-20 13:50:53

I am over 70 and go shopping once a week and observe social distancing .I still work but not at the moment as I’m a nanny to 3boys even though I think I suffered symptoms as his parents came back from France and the boys eventually became. ill My children have been bossy but I’ve ignored them

EMMF1948 Tue 05-May-20 13:48:58

This situation will end, I hope you have a long memory about how they have bullied and abused you. I think I would be re-writing my will too!

growstuff Tue 05-May-20 13:46:43

Gransnet has it wrong. I'm not going to do their job for them. Read the government website!

Having said that, I agree with you. I'm in the same category as over 70s and I've arranged for everything to be delivered. I don't have a dog, so I have absolutely no reason to leave the house.

I'm actually a tad fed up with the "poor me" brigade.

Starblaze Tue 05-May-20 13:32:20

Ah well you will have to take that up with gransnet but they are apparently listening to the NHS. I still think leaving the house is not essential when there are volunteers in place. I wouldn't want to lose 1 in 12 gransnetters over 70. It would be very quiet around here.

growstuff Tue 05-May-20 13:22:50

Ah! I see it's from Gransnet. It's still wrong!

ALANaV Tue 05-May-20 13:22:07

I think it is THEY who should apologise to you …….my daughter has cut me out of her life (I know she has married, I know she has a son...(I look on the internet and find her address wherever she is !) BUT for fifteen years there has been NO contact whatever.....part of me thinks it would have been nice to know her and her family ...part of me just thinks Well, it is her life …...and my Will reflects that. IF SHE wanted contact, her husband apparently runs his own cyber security firm so they could easily find me, as I am a technophobe but managed to find HER (and my e mail is still the same, despite having lived in three different countries since then !)….so, she will always be part of my thoughts but that will probably be all, She is 40 this year ..I shall send flowers and a gift to her address (online in Companies HOuse info)…..and that's that....sad, but there you are, ce'est la vie !!

growstuff Tue 05-May-20 13:21:38

Starblaze The text you have posted is wrong. Read the official government advice, which was updated on 1 May.

Shalene777 Tue 05-May-20 13:16:00

My parents are 74 & 76, I phone them everyday and I take them treats. I have started visiting again but sit in the lounge with a face mask on. They tell me things they have seen and heard whilst out shopping. (they are only going to the supermarket)
I would never dream of telling them what to do, and I don't want them to go stir crazy locked inside all day and night for the foreseeable future.
If you take the necessary precautions you should be OK.

I think your children have been horrible to you and I really hope that when they contact you you make it hard for them until you get an apology.