Hypocritical neighbours

Cariad I agree, trouble is this government is trying to please everyone, I don't want to be the bad guy Boris. So its softly softly with the rules. and I bet there will be a spike. I couldn't believe the pictures I saw on the BBC News with large gangs of people out, keeping, so say, the social distance and having a party. If it had been a group of teenagers it might have been a different matter. Disgraceful.

I am so proud of my small town. Originally there was going to be a big celebration. Then lockdown came and we were encouraged to decorate our homes and dress up.
On the day brought out tables set out for afternoon tea, all in their own gardens or just outside their front doors, even lots of singletons.
There were prizes for the best estate, best house, best evacuee etc.
A very happy day with everyone keeping a safe distance.??

Spot on cariad; agree with every word.

I can't help thinking that one of the reasons that so many people are not adhering as strictly to the lock down rules as they should is because of the mixed messages given by the government from the start and the lackadaisical way they have been policed...it's obvious that the public has little or no faith in what the government has done so far or continues to plan for and the softly softly attitude and constant flow of ineffectual BS and lies from No 10 has just washed over the country...let's face it, many people don't need much encouragement to bend or break the rules, they actually think it's clever to 'get away with it! They also will all have that very short sighted fatalistic attitude whereby 'it won't happen to me or my family' and they will always find some reason to justify their actions even when doing something they know they REALLY REALLY shouldn't...which apparently includes risking their own lives, the lives of their families and friends and those of the NHS staff and careworkers they will all be outside clapping for again next Thursday!!!!

Lucy2 What you've written is cobblers. Sunshine and fresh air don't build up antibodies and the immune system any more than a swig of bleach does.

Who exactly is the power class? In case you hadn't realised it, some of the so-called "power class" want the plebs to go back to work, so that the businesses owned by these power classes make some money. They'll be absolutely fine as they circle like vultures picking up the pieces from all this, buying up the failed businesses and retreating to their ivory towers. It's the human ants whose numbers will decrease.

People flouting the rules aren't taking control of anything. They're giving in to an infection which could make them and their friends and family seriously ill or kill them … all because they don't have the ability to exercise self-control.

SheilsM It wouldn't surprise me at all if there is a spike in new cases in a few days after yesterday. Be happy you won't be one of them.

This has all brought out the best and worst in people. There are some people going over and beyond what they need to do. Unfortunately, there are others who have probably always been stupid, self-centred and thoughtless. Enjoy the weather and your garden and know that you're alone amongst millions of other like-minded people.

This has really rung a bell with me. I live in a small hamlet and drinks were arranged on the Green yesterday at the last minute. I’m over 70 and have mild asthma and live alone. My son lives in France and rings me every day to make sure I’m sticking to Govt rules, which I am. I go out into the road and clap every Thursday but I didn’t go to the drinks yesterday. It surely is against all guidance? Now, who I thought was a good friend, walked past my house when I was in the garden earlier, didn’t stop and just yelled out “You missed a great time!” It was like being slapped in the face! I came in and cried, with hurt but also anger. I’ve not harmed anyone else! Now I feel really alone.

People wonder why we have the second highest death rate!
In some countries people are being beaten with sticks for ignoring the stay at home rules! Is that really what it takes ?
It’s actually disgusting how selfish and self centred people can be, especially when so many are losing their lives having to go out to work in frontline services.

My neighbour was telling at 2 metre distance that she heard about someone who had been fined 9 times for breaking the lockdown! Apparently he said that he didn't care and would do it again. Probably someone who wouldn't pay the fines either. A few nights in the cells should sort these people out.

I don't think any NHS worker knowingly signed up for this. And, if they did I they would have assumed that they would be given adequate protection to keep them safe.

Let's not forget I'm sure there is alot of NHS workers who would rather not be working at this moment, yet there conscious makes them go in. So whether they choose it or not they haven't got a choice but everybody else as!!! So stick to the rules there is a reason.You shouldn't quote self righteous creeps Sazzl because you sounded self righteous yourself at the end of your comment.

So fed up with self righteous creeps running to police to report everyone.
The way I see it is if you want to break the rules do so. If you get caught pay the fine. I'm staying in keeping me and my OH safe. That's our choice. We're social distancing when out on our long walk with the dogs. No we don't report anyone as we aren't paid police officers - that's their job. Besides we don't know others circumstances. Like my sister's neighbours friend who took an overdose the other week. She had 4 visitors to kick the door in, ring an ambulance and relatives to take the children somewhere safe while she recovered TG. Like the caravan site that locals here think is full of holiday makers. It's actually full of NHS staff staying away from home to keep family safe. And let's remember NHS workers choose their job. They are not conscripted or forced to work in a hospital. But I'm really glad they do in these difficult times

Just read a post about 12 drunken people in A&E last night. Nurses subjected to these people as they did CT scans and plastered broken limbs and bandaged heads. So they put the NHS at risk. VE Day was clearly A great excuse to party and get drunk - rather than saluting the heroes who gave them the freedom to put lives at risk. So A&E will clearly revert to
this sort of thing. These people should pay a big fine. It would be great if something robust were put in place to deal with these drunken idiots now during this huge time of change. Surely there’s a solution??

People congregate over here and flaunt the law because they know they can get away with it ! Our police have been decimated over the last 10 years, by this government, they don't have the manpower these days to be in the right place at the right time. I do think that large fines should be given out and should be followed up, not allowed to lapse because no one to make sure payment is made. The NHS is very close to my families heart, I worked in the organisation for over 30years (in an admin role, but just as important as docs and nurses). My D-I-L is a nurse, works with dementia patients but at the moment moved from ward to ward to cover shortages and illness. I want her to stay safe for her own health and that of my son and granddaughter. If lockdown is shortened when Boris speaks tomorrow, I hate to think what the outcome will be.

Nope.
Nothing better to do at all.

my goodness. dont you have anything better to do that gawp, and nose at what other people are up to and how many people are coming to their house? I know were in lockdown and life can be a bit monotanous at the moment, but seriously you need to focus on your own lives.Let them worry about their own.

I don't think it's the case of anyone being a spy it's just blatantly obvious that lots are not following the rules and when you see it it's hard to grasp their mentality. In fact its very sad but this government haven't really tried to enforce there rules and police have enough to deal with, with parks getting busy and seaside visits. Just be thankful you are you and you are not selfish like some but care enough to continue being and acting in a safe way.

Lucy-2
You are so wrong about "building up antibodies". The coronavirus is new and there's no vaccine, so falling ill with it is cdurrently the only way to develop antibodies against it.
And do you realise how selfish you sound? If you catch the virus, you may be lucky enough not to be killed by it - provided you are not immunocompromised or have an underlying health condition such as cancer. Yes, the elderly and sick are most at risk of dying, but do you want to be responsible for for killing your granddad, or your friend's mother who is being treated for cancer, or your asthmatic neighbour? In any case, being young and healthy does not guarantee survival.
You talk about "taking back control of our lives", when in reality you're gambling with others' lives.

I've been out in the fresh air.
I had to come in because my neighbour came back from her daughter's, and stopped to chat.

The best thing we can do now is to get outside and into the sunshine and fresh air with others to build our antibodies and keep our immune systems going. Hiding away will only make you more likely to catching the virus, as has been shown. I applaud these people for taking back their lives, since most of what has been fed to us are lies. I am sick of the word "allow" cropping up in every government decree. The power class is feeling a bit too much power lately and loves keeping us under their thumbs while ruining our economies. Keep reading other than main stream media and you'll see. More deaths have come from the shelter in group than any other (excluding nursing homes)

I wonder if it would sink in if coronavirus was referred to as a Plague. Then perhaps people could relate more to what is happening, and previous outbreaks in history

Unfortunately, not only have we a Prime Minister who disobeyed his own instruction not to shake hands, and did, a government who all sat close to each other in Parliament, a Scottish Health expert who disobeyed rules and resigned, Robert Jenrick M.P. who also pottered around to his relatives' home yet is still lecturing us, and Neil Ferguson, Health expert who met up with his mistress and resigned from SAGE. How can the general public be expected to obey the rules when the rule makers don't ?

I'm sad to say that I saw a picture (on facebook) of my cousin having a tea party in the garden. Apart from her immediate family, my (widowed) Uncle was also present. While I haven't been to either home, I know that they do not live together (they have different addresses), I'm 72 and my Uncle must be in his early nineties! Clearly he went from his home to theirs - and although it is in the same part of the city in which they both live, I wish they had not invited him. They could have dropped off food and drink for him just as easily.

Collaborators is the term given to those who consort with the enemy and put others in danger. Flouting the rules and potentially putting others in danger from the hidden enemy is collaboration. Large gatherings and consistent visiting should be reported in my opinion.

Sometimes people anxious to tell others where they are going wrong, are not in possession of the full facts. This self righteousness has reared its head twice to me. Our neighbour jumped on the bandwagon of snitchers when my daughter - a GP - and in full PPE came to visit with various bits of equipment to measure oxygen levels etc. as we were in the throes of Covid 19 and are apparently clinically vulnerable - one having had a kidney transplant and the other on immunosuppressant drugs for a different reason - and have received the letter - my son in law stayed in the car as they were unable to park outside our house due to another car parked opposite on a public road. This neighbour came out and asked him to move and asked what he was thinking of. I wondered what he would have said if an ambulance had stopped there - luckily we didn’t need one and have both recovered.
The second time was to do with lining up to go into a shop at a garage. I had already checked the queue to find the person with a pram was not going in but this didn’t stop someone coming up and telling me off for queue barging and to wait my turn!! She made an annoying assumption that I had not already consulted with the queue. When people do this are they exposing themselves as the very people who do take advantage? ‘Do as I say not as I do’?