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How do you think life will change after corona crisis?

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CorneliaStreet Fri 08-May-20 05:52:30

I believe most of workers would be sent home to work remotely as this corona situation shows that many office workers can work from home. Other than that, no idea. Your thoughts?

Furret Fri 08-May-20 06:14:19

What I’d like to change is the way the planet was heading for disaster from climate change. Now that pollution levels are dropping and cities like Paris, Beijing and others have visibly cleaner air we can clearly see the impact that air travel and cars have.

I’d like to see a halt to deforestation, intensive farming and other factors that have contributed to this pandemic.

Do I think it will happen? Not while the mega rich companies and their puppets like Trump are in control. Unless of course nature keeps kicking back.

PamelaJ1 Fri 08-May-20 06:27:40

Furret , I agree but can’t really see it happening.

Until we all understand that buying cheap is not in anyone’s long term best interests. Every person, in all corners of the globe, is worth paying well for producing good quality goods that will last a very long time.
Until we understand that more is not necessarily better than less it won’t happen.

If this lock down has made enough of us realise the real values in life then something good will have come out of all this.

CathTheWise Fri 08-May-20 06:35:34

I don't think there will be any great changes except for the economic crisis, to be honest. You see, there are always people who are being irresponsible about the virus, so why would they be concerned with the ecological or climate problems?

Grandad1943 Fri 08-May-20 07:28:14

When the Health situation is eventually under control the economic impact of the crisis will be on all of us. There may be several million unemployed who will have to be supported until Britains economy recovers.

How quick that maybe will depend on what confidence people have the in regard re-entering pubs, restaurants and shops and hotels etc.

Travel may also not come easy to many, with both the air and cruise industries completely devastated by the worldwide shutdown, will people feel they once more wish to book holidays which involve such travel.

Many people seem to be expressing a lack of confidence in once again engaging in what only a few weeks ago they would have considered their normal way of life. Therefore the recovery may well be a "very long uphill haul" I feel with our grandchildren paying for all that has come about, and is yet to come about, well into their adult lives.

Riverwalk Fri 08-May-20 07:43:26

There are conflicting opinions on office-based staff continuing to work at home:

I heard someone say the days of big offices are numbered as bosses realise that they can save money on rent, overheads etc; but the other day someone else pointed out that unless there are enough workers out and about then business that rely on footfall will suffer e.g. restaurants, bars, sandwich shops, clothes shops, etc.

I think eventually, things will go back as they were - how long it will take, who knows

NfkDumpling Fri 08-May-20 07:48:18

I hope more people will walk or cycle (preferably learning to use bicycle bells), more people work from home, fewer business men will fly just to attend a meeting and more nations and big businesses will realise what we were doing to the world and that you can’t eat money.

I hope too that those same money makers will become less important so their vast salaries will decrease and the money will go to the people who are helping us now.

Galaxy Fri 08-May-20 08:02:24

I hope more people will work from home, reducing the environmental impact. I for one have realised there is absolutely no need for me to be in the office on my 'office based days'. I too think the economic impact will be considerable, particularly for high street shops. I have always used online shopping a lot but will now use it pretty much exclusively.

eazybee Fri 08-May-20 08:31:10

I would hope that there will be a serious evaluation of overpaid managers such as those supposedly running the hospitals and care homes who appear to have abdicated all responsibility and lack even the basic medical training to help on the wards. Police Commissioners and School Governors are other appointments that need investigating; business people with no knowledge or experience pertaining to their role, other than abstracting money from challenged services.

Grandad1943 Fri 08-May-20 09:17:26

Our company has originally had eight members of staff working from home in Britain and four (on occasion five) in Belgium. Our experience has been "mixed" in that the majority have been able to work well from home while others have found it impossible.

Two members of staff have throughout continued to work in the main Somerset office to man the landline phones and maintain the operation of the IT system. We allowed two others two return and work from there as they were the employees who found they simply could not work from home. Our Belgium office has had a similar experience with their operations and staff.

Our assignment teams have continued to operate travelling throughout the country all be it not always carrying out the work they normally would do. Fortunately, none of them in Britain have contracted Covid-19 up to this point in time, but one member of a team in Belgium has but is now recovering.

However, all those working from home are expressing the wish to once again return to working from within the offices when it is safe to do so. In that, they state they miss the company of others along with the camaraderie and general atmosphere that is always created when many work together.

So, working from home most certainly in our experience will not continue when all this is over.

MawB Fri 08-May-20 09:25:00

I have yet to be able to form any concept of after
Until there is a vaccine, it looks set to be with us for a long time. Can we live with it?
That may be what we have to adjust to.

growstuff Fri 08-May-20 09:36:14

eazybee School governors don't get paid and there's a shortage of them (certainly in this area) anyway. Academies are run as businesses with executives and don't take much notice of governors these days. What's your problem with school governors? They've never really had much power.

Harris27 Fri 08-May-20 09:39:52

Think work places will be different I work with children and can’t imagine not sitting next to a child with a mask on which isn’t acceptable.Children need friendliness and expression. My son is working from home and doing ok but I think he misses the interaction between his workmates as I do. It will be different for a while. Sanitisers and more hand washing areas all,over I think.

BlueSky Fri 08-May-20 09:40:00

Even before the virus working from home and online shopping was on the cards getting more and more popular. A lot of shops had already closed previous to this crisis and as for for working from home why not? Our physical presence is not necessary for every job, even the meetings and conferences can be done remotely. GPs' consultations over the phone or Skype have been quite successful too. So it just accelerated a process already started. I remember years ago they were saying that eventually there won't be any shops just large warehouses where you could order from, and we thought it was sci-fi!

growstuff Fri 08-May-20 09:40:04

I agree with you MawB. We've a long way to go before life will return to anything like normal - or even new normal.

Meanwhile, we know that a certain percentage will be infected and some people will die. I think people have to face the facts, work round them or in spite of them.

An awful lot could happen in the next year or so.

growstuff Fri 08-May-20 09:44:23

The end of hot desking in offices, which will be a blessing.

Galaxy Fri 08-May-20 09:44:39

Yes anyone who thinks school governors have power has never been one! As for managers of care homes every care home manager I know is working hands on alongside their team, one of them is currently critically ill in hospital.

Franbern Fri 08-May-20 09:51:03

The effect on the economy will be long-lasting and will effect millions of people. So many will lose their jobs and their homes. How many of those lovely little shops along our High Streets will not be able to re-open>
Millionaires and Billionaires will be fine - some have already found ways of using the pandemic to increase their fortunes.
Unfortunately, I fear that the short term benefit to the environment will be just that (short term).
Going to work is more than just doing a job - it is a very social occasion - and working from home cannot give that. Once people feel that it is safe to do so, then most will want to return to working amongst other people. Obviously, there will be some who will have enjoyed doing this from home and may continue to do so. Employers will encourage that as it means their employees are paying for heating and lighting, etc. etc.
The NHS will continue to be privatised - so despite all the clapping and cheering, nothing much will have changed there, and no pay rises have been given to them during this time.
People will continue to die in tens of thousands each year as they have always done - from seasonal 'flu, heart attacks, cancer, etc. etc. Probably that figure will be added to now with Corona virus.
Life is going to be hard for many people, and further shortages are likely to around due to Brexit.
Sorry, do not think there is going to be any utopia coming out of this, do not believe in Unicorns either.

oldgimmer1 Fri 08-May-20 09:51:16

One thing this crisis has identified is how precarious many people's work situation is.

I'd like to see fewer zero hours contracts, fewer "gig" workers and better terms and conditions for all. fat chance.

timetogo2016 Fri 08-May-20 09:55:17

Spot on CathTheWise.
Couldn`t have put it better myself.

Oopsadaisy3 Fri 08-May-20 09:59:35

In my limited experience of care homes, (short and sweet) the one MIL was in is very well run, but up until they locked down on March 3rd ( earlier than most homes) the Manager did not get involved in the day to day care and wasn’t qualified, she was a business manager, staffing level manager, HR manager, if it’s broken get someone into fix it Manager. So far no one in the home has had Covid 19, so they are doing something right. I wouldn’t expect her to have the time to do Nursing Care as well in ordinary times, maybe Care Homes need a Manager plus a fully trained Nursing Manager ?
When I hear that a lot of Care homes have no PPE equipment I wonder how they have survived for so long in the past without the residents dropping like flies, surely it’s common sense? Hence the need for a Nurse to also be in charge,
As to getting back to normal, I don’t think that DH and I will, until a vaccine is developed, and until every home has a study so that people can work from home, I think it would be pretty tiresome to have to work in the kitchen or living room.
Yesterday we had at least 5 planes go overhead, for the past few weeks only 1 or 2 a week, so it looks as though the flights have started ramping up again.

Niobe Fri 08-May-20 10:06:55

Franbern, I am afraid that everything you say is spot on.

Franbern Fri 08-May-20 15:50:59

OOpsadaisy, a very large number of jobs cannot be carried out remotely.
also, where so may people do not have enough rooms in their house for them to live comfortably - it is very middle class to be concerned about studies at home.
If you intend to stay indoors until such time as a vaccine is in place, you are likely to be there a very long time.
Most people will not have any such choice, either need to return to their jobs, or join a desperate hunt for a new job to replace the one that has disappeared over the past few weeks.
As had been said, be great if such things as zero hours contracts were made illegal.

yggdrasil Fri 08-May-20 16:18:08

Franbern: " How many of those lovely little shops along our High Streets will not be able to re-open"

These shops were disappearing before the virus. The problem is business rates. Councils need every penny to keep their welfare services going, with ever decreasing help from Government.
It's a vicious circle. If they take us back to austerity, it will only get worse.