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Get out into the sun this weekend!

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MawB Sat 16-May-20 07:40:16

www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=18&ved=2ahUKEwj_leKh4bfpAhXDrHEKHQn9B3MQFjARegQICRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fnews%2F2020%2F05%2F13%2Fsunlight-fresh-air-can-protect-against-coronavirus-sage-adviser%2F&usg=AOvVaw31OKXYsWsvCFTVHgTp3Lgy
Apologies for the length of the link (assuming it works) but there is some really useful information about the difference in the rate of the spread and effects of Covid 19 depending on where you are in the world.
Two points in particular may be relevant to us in the U.K. compared to near-neighbours Spain and Italy.
Darker “Mediterranean -type” skin and the fact that many older people do not like to be out in the sun - both of these can impact Vit D absorption which comes primarily from exposure to sunlight. It might even explain the higher death rate among our BAME population.
Read it anyway and see what you think.

tanith Sat 16-May-20 07:47:40

Interesting read Maw I’m one who spends a lot of time outside which it seems may be helping keep me virus free.

Lucca Sat 16-May-20 07:48:56

I think I may have missed a bit ?
“. two points in particular may be relevant to us in the U.K. compared to near-neighbours Spain and Italy.
Darker “Mediterranean -type” skin and the fact that many older people do not like to be out in the sun -“

I couldn’t find where it discusses this and I would be interested. Sorry if I’m being thick this morning

Whitewavemark2 Sat 16-May-20 08:05:13

I had planned for our extended first day trip out next week with picnic.

Then I realised that there are no loos open anywhere.

Oh well

Lucca Sat 16-May-20 08:06:46

No help on a picnic but I think motorway service station loos are open if that could be built into an outing ??

Lucca Sat 16-May-20 08:08:00

I don’t mind a quick wee in the woods as it were but...er..um...anything else would be awful.

Furret Sat 16-May-20 08:08:29

Any ex-colleague Skyped me about this last night so it is interesting that you posted that link Maw. He is looking at links between this and the high incidence of death in the BAME community. After social, medical and cultural differences have been accounted for there is still a statistically significant difference between the death rates compared to white people.

This is just one area of research but ...

Whitewavemark2 Sat 16-May-20 08:11:03

lucca we live in the South. No motorways here really except the 23 to London.

Tbh I’m not convinced that it is safe at the moment. I want to see the R much lower before I venture near other people.

If we are somewhere isolated there may be a Bush, but difficult with everyone out and about at the moment.

Furret Sat 16-May-20 08:23:04

Visions of queuing 2m apart waiting for free bush!

Puzzler61 Sat 16-May-20 08:27:31

I would be very uncomfortable with using a public loo even if a loo attendant was disinfecting WC after each use.
I feel much better for an open air walk - and then home to use my own loo.

Puzzler61 Sat 16-May-20 08:28:19

PS Do we all remember public toilets with an office and an Attendant?

Lucca Sat 16-May-20 08:33:15

My problem is that if I am to meet up with son and family they live 70miles away and we had thought to meet halfway. Not this weekend though, maybe in a couple of weeks time.

Grannynannywanny Sat 16-May-20 08:35:04

Furret I was just thinking the same!
We’ll probably see aerial shot of such a scene on the news this evening.

A 2 mile queue of day trippers squirming on the spot with their legs crossed and an unsuspecting soul in the bushes with her knickers round her ankles

Missfoodlove Sat 16-May-20 08:35:57

We both take VitD as my husband had melanoma and I’m so Irish and freckled we have to cover up!

I read even before lockdown that Vit D was great in combatting any pulmonary infection.

MawB Sat 16-May-20 08:37:52

digitaleditions.telegraph.co.uk/data/230/reader/reader.html?social#!preferred/0/package/230/pub/230/page/24/article/42416
The link I posted may not have shown the full article but it says that Spain and Italy both show low levels of vitD in the population and Northern Europe - Scandinavia etc - the highest. It also showed how the spread of Covid19 follows a fairly narrow east-west geographical trajectory
Please don’t let irrelevancies such as public loos ( confused confused ) obscure the issue - your own garden or balcony or local park are perfectly adequate.

Lucca Sat 16-May-20 08:39:59

Thank you Maw. No the loo thing for me was unconnected to the sun thing !

MawB Sat 16-May-20 08:40:32

Ww3 and lucca - my point was a genuine even serious one. Why change the subject?
Oh well, perhaps it has to be all about you.

MawB Sat 16-May-20 08:42:12

@Puzzler too.
Disheartening when a genuine topic is raised.
Might have known better <sigh>

Furret Sat 16-May-20 08:42:25

Oh dear.

JenniferEccles Sat 16-May-20 08:51:03

I read about the possible link between vitamin D levels and Covid a few weeks ago.

I was already taking a supplement but after reading the piece I have upped my intake.

So long as we stay within the recommended intake it can do no harm.

I also remember reading years ago how a lack of vit. D in the body was linked to breast cancer.

Regarding public toilets, we had a day out at the south coast Thursday and yes all the loos were shut but we were told by two locals that they were opening up again from today (Saturday)

Luckily we had ‘been’ at a petrol station on the way down and did the same on the return journey!

JenniferEccles Sat 16-May-20 08:55:24

P.S MawB Thank you for posting the link.
The comparisons between countries and different skin colours was interesting, and could possibly tie in with the high death rates in darker skinned people, although I am sure other factors are at play there too.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 16-May-20 08:57:36

maw my god you are a touchy bugger at times!

I’ve been taking Vit D for years. It’s efficacy on the immune system has been known for ages, and doctors have frequently recommend it.

The BAME community in the north would be sensible to take it.

Grannynannywanny Sat 16-May-20 09:00:31

Apologies MawB. I joined in the toilet banter but I didn’t mean to cause offence.

In recent days my emotions seem to be swinging between the depths of despair or I’m finding jokes so funny I laugh till I cry.

BlueSky Sat 16-May-20 09:09:22

I am interested in the toilet situation as I can't go longer than about an hour, so I've to limit my walks to this to get back home. Why no public toilets open? Are they open in supermarkets? Sorry to go off topic.

janeainsworth Sat 16-May-20 09:09:35

Maw the second article you posted is completely different from the first one.
For some reason I can’t copy and paste from the article, but one of the many rather puzzling claims it made, when talking about whether geographical latitude had some influence on incidence & mortality, was that
‘Scandinavian nations are among nations with the lowest number of Covid19 cases and mortality rates’

Well Newcastle is at latitude 55N, and Stockholm is 59N.

The Northeast is currently top of the U.K. in cases per 100,000 population, way ahead of London.

Last time I looked, the UK had the third highest number of cases in the world.

I sometimes wonder how Science Editors like the Telegraph’s actually get their jobs.

To answer your suggestion in the title of the thread, I’ll carry on with my Vit D supplement and weeding the garden, but I won’t be joining the masses on the beach or in the parks sad