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The Cummings Effect - are people rebelling?

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AGAA4 Wed 27-May-20 15:31:03

My very law abiding neighbours seem to have changed since the Cummings interview.

One couple headed off to their second home the day after and I have noticed that others are no longer observing the 2 metre advice.

This is a very small community and I am wondering if others are not complying now with the rules.

If this is happening across the country then it is very worrying. I know many people are angry and feel betrayed.

JenniferEccles Thu 28-May-20 16:09:28

I don’t think it matters one jot whether or not his child is autistic, he just acted in what he felt was the best option for his family.

I suspect a large number of people would have done exactly the same thing in his circumstances, but of course not everyone is honest enough to admit it.

It is so much easier to join the herd condemning him for breaking the rules, even though it quite clearly states that there is flexibility with regard to childcare.

So many people hate Cummings and are delighted to be outraged by this.

AGAA4 Thu 28-May-20 15:53:35

Those who say they would have driven hundreds of miles to family if they were ill would most likely have been fined as many were.

growstuff Thu 28-May-20 15:52:18

I'm just pi$$ed off with the number of people who admit that they would have broken the rules too (and maybe have), who seem to think that somehow they're different and are justifying what Cummings did.

PS. I knew you were joking.

growstuff Thu 28-May-20 15:49:48

Of course I was joking AGAA4. Sorry!

growstuff Thu 28-May-20 15:49:14

What a load of cobblers! But it seems to be becoming widespread. This is nothing to do with Brexit, despite what the nutjob trolls are claiming.

This is about a couple who quite clearly broke the rules, including committing at least one actual offence, who have got away with it. It is especially important because one of those people had a hand in writing the rules, which have affected so many people.

No, it must not be allowed to be dropped.

AGAA4 Thu 28-May-20 15:49:14

Sorry Growstuff maybe you were joking too? I am a bit touchy today. Lockdown blues.

AGAA4 Thu 28-May-20 15:46:51

If you couldn't see that was a joke Growstuff not much hope really.

growstuff Thu 28-May-20 15:45:54

So you would have broken the law too Maggieanne. Absolutely no sympathy.

growstuff Thu 28-May-20 15:44:11

AGAA4 Good job you're anonymous or I might just give the police a little ring grin.

Seriously … I have to have six monthly eye tests for diabetic retinopathy. They put drops in my eyes which can sting and the appointment letter always tells me that I must not drive under any circumstances. I would be committing an offence if I did - and that's precisely what Cummings was doing - no ifs or buts, excuses or mitigating circumstances. He broke the law.

Maggieanne Thu 28-May-20 15:43:39

I can't believe people are still going on about this! Jayne67, I completely agree with you,when your young, and possibly only child, is your main concern I would have done exactly the same thing.
I live in a fairly affluent area but no matter what, it doesn't mean that you have any common sense. My neighbours wife and daughter had the infection but he still went shopping, probably spreading the infection all over the place. Others have had regular get togethers from the start. At least Cummings kept away from others. For goodness sake, stop, now. The BBC can't let go, they just want to stop Brexit!

Bluecat Thu 28-May-20 15:43:23

There is no autistic child, I am willing to bet. If there was, they would have traded on it shamelessly.

One of the things I hate most about this affair is the way they think we'll believe any old tat. "I know, I'll tell them I drove to Barnard Castle and back to test my eyesight. The peasants will fall for it."

Don't forget that this is the man who said that rich people were superior to the poor because they had better genes and therefore better brains. (Listen to Donald Trump talk for 5 minutes and you'll find that theory disproved.)

Alishka Thu 28-May-20 15:43:03

Ah c'mon...he wanted to visit the bluebell woods.Sounds reasonable enough to megrin

growstuff Thu 28-May-20 15:40:04

mrneduc Is there any evidence the child is severely autistic? I could be wrong, but I thought that was yet another lie.

If you had driven 260 miles for childcare for a child, when there were quite clearly alternatives, and would have been totally against the rules as they were at the time, I would have had absolutely no sympathy for you either.

AGAA4 Thu 28-May-20 15:37:29

I think this is more about loss of faith in government now.

I have stayed at home just one walk a day for the last 2 months and I am concerned that Covid will just go on and on and I will never feel safe to go out, thanks to those who do whatever they want. DC has made things worse.

I know most of us will just plod on doing the right thing for the sake of our own health and others but it seems to me that there will be a significant number who wont.

Just off out for a 30 mile drive to test my eyesight wink

Jayne67 Thu 28-May-20 15:34:27

I look at this another way - if I had covid symptoms and my husband was isolating with me to care for me, I would want my 4 year old child to be as safe as possible with family who I knew were safe and who my child would feel safe and happy with 24/7 for as long as necessary. If that meant a long car journey (not many families live close these days) my husband driving and me as passenger as I am too ill to be left alone, then so be it. Whatever Cummings political position I defy any parent to do otherwise and any Grandparent to risk both mother and father of their grandchild being hospitalised leaving a 4 year old child lonely, scared and vulnerable. We all need to let this go and move on. Defying medical advice is just cutting your nose off the spite your face!

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-May-20 15:33:04

There Is another good one I’ve put on separately called an anthem to the baby boomers (culture and art thread???)

Jishere Thu 28-May-20 15:29:47

It is indeed first real laugh I've had today Whitewavemark2??

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-May-20 15:29:08

I thinks it’s brilliant jishere???

georgia101 Thu 28-May-20 15:28:48

I'm with you Lexisgranny. I can't understand how people think it's ok to risk their loved ones health by breaking the rules because Cummings did. So can I break the rules now because they did? Idiotic thinking! I think they would have broken the rules anyway, but now they think they have a good excuse - which they haven't!

Jishere Thu 28-May-20 15:28:14

Mrneduc Cummings child is not autistic that was started on one of the social media platforms. It was false.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-May-20 15:28:10

I think it’s brilliant jishere????

Jishere Thu 28-May-20 15:26:31

White wave very funny???

Suz2 Thu 28-May-20 15:26:15

I believe what DC did is disappointing, BJ's reaction is also disappointing. But my family and I will continue to do what keeps us safe and hopefully others as well. We have neighbours that have bbq's regularly and hear them ringing around inviting people. Monday bank holiday was a nightmare where we sat missing our families while they had a 10 hour party and garden full. I have heard them say they feel people should just be allowed to use their own common sense and they do feel it doesn't and will not affect them. They are enjoying being off work Their behaviour hasn't changed because of DC but their behaviour and attitude is worrying with regards to trace and contact. I agree it is going to be interesting to see if there is a renewed spike. One of my son's works in a care home and they have just got CoVid back in the building again!!

georgia101 Thu 28-May-20 15:25:17

I think people would have done these things anyway but are using the Cummings incident to justify their actions.

mrneduc Thu 28-May-20 15:24:21

The MSM are biased and people believe it. I think I would have done the same as Dominic Cummings looking for care for a severely autistic 4 yr old. Can’t pass any child around like a parcel especially with such needs