The Cummings Effect - are people rebelling?

Must admit, have seen neighbours become more cavalier but I would do as much as needed to preserve everyone's safety.

I believe getting people to comply with Track and Trace will be harder now after what Cummings has got away with.

People who are healthy will be asked to self-isolate for 14 days if they have been near someone who has tested positive for Covid.

Think what this will mean for self- employed and and other workers, who will only receive sick pay for that 2 weeks.

They could go back to work then find that they have again been in contact with Covid so another 2 weeks at home.

This will be a very big ask of the public and as people have less trust in government thanks to DC I think some may decide not to comply.

Dominic Cummings I would drive 260 miles

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Emmypemmy it's incredibly sad that mental health has been affected but the mental health and pain lots have endured to now realise you could have done what Cummings did, is unforgivable.

I'm with you Lexi Reprensible behaviour by Cummings but people acting like sheep following his example is selfish. My DH and I disagree that he should have been sacked. I think he should have.

My disdain of DC &co will be dealt with at the ballot box. Pity it's so far away. In the past, when I was trying to shelve blame for a foul action to another, I always remember my Mum saying 'And if ??? stuck her hand in the fire, would you do that too?' Think this applies here.

Nodding he went into Downing Street so he did endanger life.

As my mum used to say.
“If —— jumped off cliff, would you!?”
For a so called clever man, he is extremely STUPID !

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There is no such thing as a minor breach. It is a breach or not.

Cummings certainly did endanger life as he categorically states that his eyes were bad enough to be in some doubt as to whether he could drive.

Take this at face value and he broke the law. No question.

Not that any if it is true. He went up north on a jolly

The deputy mayor of Liverpool has stood down temporarily . Her daughter arranged a surprise 50th birthday party in their garden. Judging by the photo there was not much social distancing happening and absolutely no isolating.

I must admit, it took me a while to get used to BJ as PM and I was actually beginning to like him. That was until the DC debacle. Now, I have lost all respect for him and believe he is incapable of being PM. IMO he has shown how weak he is and that he cannot do without DC propping him up. I sat and listened to the DC interview this week and couldn’t believe what he was saying. Surely he doesn’t expect people to actually believe what he was saying? IMO he took all of us for fools and must think we are all utterly stupid. Certainly over the past 2 to 3 days around where I live it seems everyone is back to normal. The beaches are packed, a huge number of cars are back on the road and my local high street has been heaving with no one social distancing at all. Is this because of DC? I don’t know but around where I live it’s certainly back to pre lockdown conditions.

MaizieD another apology for getting your name wrong and to say really good idea to have fact list. Whitewave it's a minor breach because he endangered nobody. He went out which the rules state you can, "with good reason" they have decided that he didn't have good reason but because that is subjective he can't be deemed to have deliberately broken them and because, once out, he observed all the rules of social distancing, his breaking of the rules has caused no harm.

Maybe the majority of us who are trying to be responsible citizens in spite of everything, and are still doing our best to protect others, and will continue to do so, should collectively show ( on an ongoing basis) our disapproval of this PM and his adviser who have shown such disrespect to us?

I think I'm going to get a T shirt with the words REVOLTING PEASANT printed on it - and ask my ACs to circulate the pictures via all their social media. But I need some ideas for the picture or logo.....

So Cummings broke the law.

There is no such thing as a “minor breach” btw only a breach.

Johnson says matter closed.

This will only infuriate people further.

No I’m not relaxing my personal rules ..... I wouldn’t stoop so low..... we have to rise above the ‘Cummings ‘ of this world .... who think their ‘instincts ‘ for their children ....so far outweigh our instincts for our loved ones! He’s a moron . I will not give him another thought!

I am angry with Cummings for doing what he has done but now more so with Boris. Any respect I may have had for him has gone because he refused to sack Cummings for his blatant disregard for lockdown.

Rules? What are we, Human Beings, we make our own decisions then face the Consequences as many children do... But hey we have a Pandemic why are we concentrating on what he does , drop it now it's gone on for days Who really cares People with money break many many rules a law unto themselves. Let Boris get on with this Pandemic and do what he has to do ...... Mental Health also , some people are suffering tremendously. If people carry on with this Cummings Saga the guy may have a breakdown, then who will be responsible....?

Well I for one am onto the KLM or Air France website ...they are re opening flights to Paris and Amsterdam as from next week or the week after ….and if I pass the airport temperature test I am off…...I can if required self isolate for 14 days in either country and if we don't resume a resemblance of normal life soon I am afraid we never will.

Yes PANTGLAS I too thought of that phrase. Indeed everytime l see Boris spouting l see an "out of touch"Squire.

MaiseD I apologise. Alice, not Linda. You are correct.

No, they haven't won me over. I think D.C. applied the rules as he saw fit and, having read the rules carefully myself I accept that they give room for manoeuvre where the safeguarding of young children are concerned.
To those of us who, "listened to understand" rather than, "listened to reply" to D.C.'s audience with the press, the answer regarding the articles that were written as though they were still in London was clear, he wanted to spare his elderly parents and his sister's family from the attention of the press. In short he admitted, albeit in a roundabout way, that he'd deliberately misled the public in order to protect his family. He didn't apologise for it because he felt it was the right thing to do under the circumstances.
As far as the article M.W. wrote, he quite rightly said he couldn't speak for his wife, she' s a professional writer, and nor should we be asking him to, it's 2020 not 1920!
I do believe that D.C.'s accounts of his actual movements and level of contact with other people during his escapade are true as, given the current witch hunt, I'm comfortable in my certainty that, should there be irrefutable evidence to the contrary, it would have been shouted from the rooftops and if any comes to light, it will be. So far, however, we are being thrown excuses without backup. Her sister was in London, (could be any number of reasons why she couldn't, wouldn't, they didn't want to ask, nobody's bloody business but theirs). Could have got a nanny in (expressly against "the rules" at the time, no question over that). Child in car with infected parent, (child already, given only 4-years-old, already been in close proximity to infected parent!) and on and on.
Every aspect of this I have given careful consideration and weighed up in my own mind and my feelings are: Justified in going to Durham, would have done same in his shoes. Articles? Hmm, can't comment as don't know what pressure M. W. was under to turn in copy and, if locked down, what else had she to write about and could she, in all honesty, open up her PIL to the baying mob in their doorstep? Too many unknowns to even begin to play judge and jury. Trip to Barnard Castle? Don't believe his excuses, they sound stupid and he's not stupid but there's no evidence that he broke social distancing guidelines so, man up, 'fess up, apologise, pay your fine like everyone else.

Calendargirl No, she isn't. I didn't say Conservative MPs, I said Conservatives.
Ex MPs still have a voice in the party.

Ellanvanin and lexisgranny I agree with both of you. People who now do what they want would probably have done so anyway. The weather is lovely, people are bored of lockdown and BJ very wrongly said people can travel. DC was wrong though I can understand why he did what he did and , if he really cared about BJ, he would have gracefully and graciously fallen on his sword. It is his arrogance that has got me far angrier than what he did. I do think the media with their blood lust have an awful lot to answer for. Having run out of PPE and care homes stories they were desperate for something else (The testing numbers are going up and the scientists are working hard at track and trace so neither of those stories would provide the "everything is bad" headlines) . So DC played right into their hands. What does make me cross is the fact that MP Stephen Kinnock and his wife drove hundreds of miles to see his dad Neil for his birthday. And nobody has said a word about that.

Sadly there are some people who will take the attitude, well if he can then so can I . What is even more alarming is that this incident has taken the focus away from the most important issue that is Coronavirus !
I only listen to the early evening bulletin for news of the virus and what I have yet to hear is how schools are gearing up for opening when there is such a shortage of PPE.
My daughter is Business Manager of a local Academy Trust (all primary ) and has only been able to source hand sanitiser and wipes.
I think if I was in teaching I’d be very concerned that my safety requirements were not being met.

Most of my neighbours have been doing exactly as they like right from the beginning. Friends and family visiting all the time.