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Easing the lockdown

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MissAdventure Thu 28-May-20 22:44:01

Has anyone an uneasy feeling that it's happening deflect the uncomfortable questions boris and co are facing?

4allweknow Fri 29-May-20 09:06:21

Advice has been ignored for a couple of weeks now by many. The better weather and being allowed to meet with people will more or less signal all is back to normal now. For public transport it shoujd be obligatory to wear a mask the whole time. Other countries have reduced lockdown conditions but imposed masks to be worn in a lot of circumstances. Anyone noticed when reporter are interviewing in Sweden, Netherlands
Denmark, it is airways young people, never seen anyone looking over 40 on screen yet. Those countries do have older people don't they?

4allweknow Fri 29-May-20 09:07:07

Always, not airways!

rocketstop Fri 29-May-20 09:08:54

We were very very careful, I haven't been anywhere for 13 weeks either, but hubby got cv from work and brought it home. We are very very slowly starting to recover but it has been a long, hard haul, and although not hospitalised we were very close to being. It is an AWFUL illness, we have had really bad effects and in answer to OP's question, because no one knows if we can get it again, I am MOST uneasy about relaxing lockdown.People are desperate to get out and about again, I know that, but if they knew what this illness felt like they wouldn't be so quick to want to go out and mix !!

Jess20 Fri 29-May-20 09:09:47

It's too soon. We can personally still self-isolate, but it's not under control in the general population imho. The App won't be enough to stop it. Give it 6-8 weeks and the numbers could be shooting up again. There has been insufficient time put into providing PPE, making public toilets safe, solving the problems of workplaces, schools and public transport. Sorry about the gloomy comment, I just think we should have waited a bit longer, got the App working and made sure there is proper widespread testing.

Theoddbird Fri 29-May-20 09:12:04

A second wave will happen. I live an isolated life anyway so none of it really affects me...

Teddy123 Fri 29-May-20 09:12:13

I felt easing lock down (prior to the DC debacle) was far too soon. Personally another month would have been acceptable. Scary yet acceptable.

I don't intend to change my personal lock down! I'm waiting until the numbers have dramatically reduced.
The 'R' rate hasn't reduced.

Boris seems to be panicking and trying to placate all of us. I'm very disappointed so can only use my own common sense....

MissAdventure Fri 29-May-20 09:12:13

I think perhaps if the testing was in place, it would have shown the best way to ease, gradually.
As it is, I felt a bloody fool yesterday sitting on the bus with a mask on.

Susieq62 Fri 29-May-20 09:12:26

We are taking it very steadily here and not charging off to see folk in huge numbers. We MIGHT meet my daughter for a distanced picnic next week as not seen her since March 22nd. But not going shopping or on transport as we feel we have come this far .
I don’t think BJ is in real control. I think he is still struggling from being so ill plus he relies heavily on DC for support which is why he has not been fired!

Nannieannie51 Fri 29-May-20 09:14:57

JenniferEccles. I think you’re missing the point. Those of us who are nervous can still hide away. But we’ll still be affected by the NHS being inundated by new cases and all other treatments being put back again. The whole country gets adversely affected, even the young. If cases rise people will keep getting the message to self isolate for a fortnight, possibly over and over. Only the rich could possibly cope with that.

Taliya Fri 29-May-20 09:17:04

Yes , I do because Professor Valance was trying to say it was too early in yesterday's Corona virus update but Boris wasn't listening. Lifting the lock down more quickly irrespective of infection rates and with no functioning track and Trace system in place until at least the end of this month is asking for trouble. Boris is lifting more of the Lockdown earlier as a distraction from the Dominic Cummings fiasco!

hapgran Fri 29-May-20 09:17:41

We can't stay in full lockdown for ever. The virus will still be out there. Personally, I am very excited at meeting up with family next week.

MissAdventure Fri 29-May-20 09:19:37

Well, I don't think there is anyone who isn't over the moon about seeing family again.

That was rather my point.

hapgran Fri 29-May-20 09:20:00

Also, I live in a seaside town and, looking at the beach, you could be forgiven for thinking lockdown is already over, which is definitely a worry.

Nannapat1 Fri 29-May-20 09:23:20

No. And glad that finally dental surgeries can open from 8 June.

Parky Fri 29-May-20 09:23:22

I think it is right to ease restrictions. Looking at the statistics younger, fit and healthy people seem to have minor symptoms if infected. People who are older, obese with health problems should take care. No one is being forced to go out. We are over 70 although fit and healthy, we go walking everyday, shop in our area (not supermarket) and see our daughter and family, which is allowed here.

Do what is right for your situation and leave others to make their own decisions. Maybe the herd immunity will kick in.

growstuff Fri 29-May-20 09:25:32

Those who are vulnerable and care about their health will be forced to continue self-isolating because others are still spreading it in the community. The reported infection rate in my area is continuing to rise, according the the KCL Covid-19 tracker.

If the UK had had 100% lockdown with strict enforcement, as other countries have had, the virus would have had nowhere to go and would have died out by now. Everyone, including the vulnerable, would feel much safer about returning to a normal life now.

growstuff Fri 29-May-20 09:26:53

Parky Herd immunity is a myth and would, in any case, mean about half a million deaths. Would you be happy with that?

growstuff Fri 29-May-20 09:28:29

Hapgran The virus didn't need to be still out there, if every had stuck to a 100% lockdown - not the half-hearted effort we had from some people.

Humbertbear Fri 29-May-20 09:28:30

We aren’t easing. End of.
My husband is shielding and my mother is 99. Lockdown continues

Caro57 Fri 29-May-20 09:30:31

The whole world - including BoJo et al - are trying to deal with something that has never been experienced before. There is bound to be a bit of ‘suck it and see’

MissAdventure Fri 29-May-20 09:31:38

Sadly, I'm one of the suckers. (In more ways than one, I think!)

Sparklefizz Fri 29-May-20 09:35:22

Countries like Sweden, South Korea, and Iceland have not enacted lockdowns. Yet somehow, the spread of coronavirus in these countries has not been considerably worse or better than other countries.

Iceland's total population is smaller than the population of Bristol, so no problem with social distancing there, and no need for lockdown.

Nanniejc1 Fri 29-May-20 09:35:43

I think most sensible people will do what they think is right for themselves.My husband is shielded so we definitely won’t suddenly start socialising with loads of people,don’t think our life will change much until they find a vaccine . Can’t see what it’s got to do with Mr Cummings though,all the countries in Europe have started to lift lockdown,think Boris & the government are just following what other the other countries are doing.....very carefully.Sick of all the vitriol & nasty comments about the government & Mr’s time we moved on & everyone got behind our government instead of constant sniping & political point scoring Things are tough & may get worse but I don’t think Corbin or anyone else could have done any better.......this is an unprecedented time & several politicians on all sides broke lockdown.We have to do what’s right for ourselves & our families.....

Gma29 Fri 29-May-20 09:36:15

I think the impetus driving the easing of lockdown is more financial. It didn’t occur to me to consider the Cummings situation was a factor.

Whether it is safe/appropriate I just don’t know, there are so many conflicting views amongst the ‘experts’. I think all you can do is adopt your own risk assessment, and behave accordingly. Being retired, I do at least have the choice whether to go out or mot.

There are quite a few people local to me who have taken absolutely no notice of the restrictions from the outset. I think there is also an element of accepting that people will generally just not stick to it much longer. Many can’t afford to.

Rose56 Fri 29-May-20 09:39:42

Yes I think so too, I was waiting for the ‘dead cat’ story to take over the news. Also Emily Maitlis deserves a medal!