Easing the lockdown

That should read China after travel!!

There are fresh outbreaks in Beijing. Previously any new sufferers were found to have brought it into Chiba after trace.

This new outbreak has been trace to another seafood market.

Rather alarmingly the Chinese have banned imported salmon from Norway amongst other places as covid has been found on tools that have prepared the salmon.

I’m sure they are just being extra careful.

Some risk you might like to consider.

A SAGE document just released confirms the scientific advice about social distancing guidance: "...best current evidence suggests that 1m carries between 2 and 10 times the risk of 2m of separation."

Here is a guide from the FT. Might be useful.

t.co/lx4CduCQiX?amp=1

Regarding not using sanitisers on trolleys. I prefer to use gloves and wash my hands rather than use chemicals.

The easing of lockdown is more to do with Boris trying to salvage some popularity in the wake of the Cummings fiasco.
Personally I’m glad I don’t live in England.

I wish people would stop travelling to the south coast those of us who live here haven’t been flooding onto the beaches and the trippers now put us all at risk!

Thank you Woodmouse.

Those of us who live here can see on our local News or hear from friends and relatives about the high numbers of visitors to this area.

Your post has confirmed to me that I am doing the right thing to continue to shield.

sparklefiz

South West (report just out) shows it has the highest R rate in the UK. 0.9

Press are too keen to publish that deaths are going down.

0.9 means infection rate is still high. However it is thought to be the highest because of a recent rise in cases in the Bristol and Weston-super-Mare areas. This could continue to happen to any part of the South West. There are so many more people travelling to that area now.

The government is keeping a close eye on R as it reviews lockdown. If it goes above one, the epidemic will grow.

Sir David King interview with Channel 4
www.channel4.com/news/40000-excess-deaths-could-have-been-avoided-if-government-had-acted-responsibly-prof-sir-david-king?fbclid=IwAR08izwCY4j9KqZOrO3mtIW9SKG3B5bKZ1YxyDTxLaheObloPNTETh4uyK8
He is laying 40000 excess deaths at the door of the government and their action

Just in response to the comments on not using sanitiser on the trolleys, I carry my own sprays and wipes and do my own trolley the second I pick it up, which means I walk past the spray and roll of paper the shop is offering as I have already done it.

Ok, posted without reading properly, will now stand in the corner !

stop directing comments to another person! not necessary! that will stop the in fighting! Manners please!

I didn’t say she had. I was saying that with so many stories on various threads about neighbours/general public not following guidelines, there are sections of the public who may well be to blame for the continued spread of the virus.

I don't see anywhere that Whitewave is suggested we shouldn't all follow the guidance.

Whitewavemark2 I agree that in some aspects Government has been slow to act, but certainly some members of the public are responsible for the spread of further infections.

Just locally I have seen a family that has had a houseful of guests to stay over both bank holidays, and several others have clearly had visitors throughout lockdown, judging by all the extra cars.

When shopping, some people are not attempting any social distancing, some don’t even use the sanitiser.

EllenVannin and PGAgirl are right. If everyone followed the rules it would be a big help.

A lot of the masks on sale or homemade ones are virtually useless. I think for many of us it is still easing and not getting rid of the lockdown. My company still won’t allow everyone back as they cannot distance to work. People are in very small groups doing sport. There are still screens in the shops and markers where you queue apart. Always there will be those who ignore but they ignored from the start. It really must depend where you live. Our sit-down restaurants have opened but only offer collection or delivery. Brasserie Blanc talked of this and yum, what a change from lots of the other, often greasy stodge that can be available.

PGAgirl, exactly so.
As individuals, we each have a responsibility for deciding what is appropriate for keeping ourselves and others safe. Just because we can doesn't mean we must.

Easing it??? Has become a rush and now a storm of getting rid of lockdown. ANother week and we will say Lockdown? What Lockdown???

PGAgirl Agree with all you say.

Why is so much of the discussion centred on restrictions when the real issue should be protections?

The Government realises that you can only keep the healthy majority of the country on Lockdown for so long, that is why they did not want to start it too early.. Doing it for the NHS was a brilliant move but people are getting restless. If you do not lift it people will take it into their own hands to do what they want, Lifting Lockdown with rules is timely. Unfortunately I shall still be self isolating but I do get to see my grandchildren, in the garden.

ev Johnson must love you. His intention is to blame the public when the virus begins to spread again. You are doing his job for him.

But he is wrong.

Good leadership is what is needed..
Non-corrupt leadership is what is needed...
Strong leadership is what is needed..
Intelligent leadership is what is needed.

So how many thousand over this weekend will be interrogated for overstepping their journey ? Selfish lot of individuals !!

The scientists say No; Boris says Yes. So it will happen.

Subject closed - we are in a dictatorship.

I am incandescent with rage about the corruption at the highest level. I value integrity - but it has flown the nest.