Easing the lockdown

I feel we are heading very fast for a second wave of corona .

Boris has only made these changes to distract us from his mate Cummings. Boris refuses to answer any questions about Cummings.

Boris's responsibility to be accountable to voters in nil.

Yes, absolutely! The easing of lockdown should not be brought forward just to take our attention away from the debacle that is the Boris and Dom show

Yes. Also the rolling out of track and test early before it was ready. It was due to be rolled out in June. It crashed as soon as it went live.
Also cummings sister is a director of the company involved in it. All a deliberate distraction. Enough said?

Also cummings sister is a director of the company involved in it. All a deliberate distraction.

I think that has already been disproved further upthread, Tiny

Cummings sister is not the Alice Cummings director of the company involved in the postal voting .

I’m not convinced by any arguments that lockdown hasn’t saved many lives, despite the high death toll world wide. There was no lockdown for Spanish flu and millions died, and thankfully the world hasn’t yet lost a million lives.

Being able to meet 6 members of family or friends will make absolutely no difference to my neighbours, several of them have been visiting family and friends, and having family and friends to sit in their gardens all along. I think Boris is easing the lockdown too soon.

I’m not convinced by any arguments that lockdown hasn’t saved many lives,

Neither am I*maddyone*.

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Of course the government are damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
I believe most people are fairly sensible and we cannot stay ‘locked up’ for ever. There just wouldn’t be anything to come out to.
Take care and be kind to yourself and others.

Yes. It's to cover up the inevitable surge of deaths from the Cummings fiasco with a separate surge from opening things up too quickly.
In my view, they should have opened schools... waited... opened non essential shops... waited... instead it's all happening at once.
I expect the infection rate will go through the roof, the farce of a track and trace system will be overwhelmed immediately, and we'll be back in durance vile for another spell.
Herd immunity by another name...

I agree Rose56 about Emily. This seems to me like a government trying to keep in control when they know lots were unhappy with them.
Let's give the peasants a little treat that will help all this DC rubbish blow over.
Also Monday back to school, it would have been another row, children can go to school but they can't see family.

Oh my goodness whatever the government do will always be the wrong thing by some people! Lockdown was wrong and easing lockdown is also wrong.Life has to go on and we must all take responsibility for our own safety and just be sensible.If you don't feel safe don't go out!

Time will tell

Nobody seems to mention the idea that one should assess the risk of meeting up with others, according to their circumstances.
I have often met up with my daughter and her daughter who live about 4 miles away as she brings me items I need, staying in the front garden at social distance, and she is keeping very much away from others, but I have no intention of meeting up with my other granddaughter who is 18 and is working in a supermarket as her college is closed and is obviously having to mix with all and sundry. Surely she is more likely to be a carrier of disease? Her mum is now back at work so that family is more risky to me than those who have been more or less self isolating.

chatterbox I don't have any choice. I would love to go out, but not when other people are behaving irresponsibly and are spreading infection around with little thought for others.

Lockdown was never wrong. It should have been earlier and stricter. Without a host, the virus would have almost disappeared. Local flare-ups could have been stamped on promptly and efficiently.

Chatterbox there are lots that have, including myself been out since the beginning so we haven't had a choice.
We have the highest death rate in Europe, so as far as I'm concerned they have made many errors along the way. Especially sadly when they knew this virus was coming! This isn't a moan it's my opinion.

Cabbie21 I know this was talked about on another thread. Lots seemed aghast that shopping was delivered and some sat in gardens at a distance chatting.
At the end of the day that is all we have our own risk assessment. Take care and keep safe.

I have this morning had a necessary hospital appointment - dodging staff and opening and closing doors was a nightmare. My consultation was fine as we all wore masks and I felt perfectly safe there. Proved how you have to venture out sometimes but I felt such relief when I got back to the car and came home again. Can't see me going shopping for a long time and only seeing family very briefly from a safe distance.

Lockdown appeared to be over this past week. People around lakes here with deckchairs, picnic hampers n rugs. Children running about n going into the water. Never seen so many as for social distancing that appeared to have gone out of the window. Time will tell whether we have a second wave! The good weather has encouraged everyone to go outside. Having lost my DD and 3 friends to Covid19 it’s a concern. It’s not flu which is bad enough but this dreadful virus has no cure!

Definitely for Boris ...track and testing has doubtless been announced before it is ready in order to deflect from Cummings ….good day to bury bad news as was once said by someone ! ….the only thing anyone can do is to take responsibility for themselves just as they would have done in any other circumstances …..i.e. SARS, AIDS, Bird Flu, were all going to obliterate the human race ...Diptheria, Scarlet fever, Spanish flu and the Bubonic plague ….the human race is so far still surviving …..just watch out for the meteorite approaching earth ……..

Exactly Chatterbox2 ,everyone needs to be sensible & the government is damned if they do & damned if they don’t.Cant please everyone & lockdown can’t go on for ever,my children have all been working anyway as they are key workers.Im beginning to think that I should come off ‘Gransnet’,most of the people on here seem to be Boris haters,against the government & Brexit......so sad that there is so many vitriolic & hate filled posts........we all have to get through this.....what happened to being kind?

We haven’t got over the first wave yet! Daily deaths still in 3 figures but the government talking as if we’re virtually on the last lap. And don’t get me started on the Mickey Mouse test and trace system. Other countries are using this stuff called technology to rapidly track people while we’ve got something out of the ark.

Ditto nanniejcl that's exactly how I feel regarding coming off here because your opinion is only valid if everyone agrees and it is a positive one towards the subject in question.

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