I never thought I’d say this but I wish Theresa May hadn’t quit... *Title edited by GNHQ*

As someone says upthread, Australia has had few deaths and has a male leader, but I don’t think Scott Morrison is very popular with some Australians.
His handling of the bush fire crisis was slated by many.

Let’s broaden our perspective. What if countries led by women are managing the pandemic more effectively not because they are women, but because the election of women is a reflection of societies where there is a greater presence of women in many positions of power, in all sectors?

Very good point Furret
Somebody said recently that instead of just admiring Jacinda Arden and moaning about our ineffectual leadership, we need to elect one. And as you have said, promote a society where women of her calibre rise to the positions where they make a difference.

This seems to be yet another bash Boris thread. Theresa May was useless and ineffective. How on earth can anyone think she would have done a good job. TM threw away her majority because nobody had confidence in her ability. Boris did not. Boris has done a good job in very difficult circumstances. The Labour party and the media have done their best to make the situation worse.

furret I do agree the examples are so easy to find.

PS thank you GNHQ for correcting my typo.

The care home issue is just one point. The whole point is that women leaders seem to have grasped the nettle more thoroughly and effectively than many of their male counterparts.

There is of course a difference between the genders in the way they operate and their different leadership styles. Looking at the way these women have put practicalities and good old common sense before the size of their egos (or possibly another body part) has highlighted this difference,

The worst women I even came across in management were those who aspired to be like certain men who climbed the corporate ladder ruthlessly. The best ones were those who realised they had other skills, more subtle, better and effective ways of getting ‘things done’.

While people like Boris, Trump Bolsonaro and that fat bloke in North Korea seem to think in an ego and ambition driven way, others like those women mentioned seem driven to just get it right. Obviously there are men too who have taken this approach such as Moon Jae-in, but he is backed by thecvery well informed and well respected Kang Kyung-wha.

oopsadaizy talking about sending bed blockers into care homes with spare capacity.

I can remember (probably Hancock) saying exactly that.

So it certainly did form of government policy in the period when they finally decided to take action.

'Inquiry over coronavirus patients sent to care homes, as owner says he was forced to take in sick residents
EHRC announces that it is considering investigating the legality of discharging possibly infected patients from hospitals into care homes'

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/14/equalities-watchdog-considers-whether-sending-patients-hospitals/

Oopsadaisy3

'Negative tests are not required prior to transfers / admissions into the care home.'

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/886140/admission__and_care_of_residents_during_covid19_incident_in_a_care_home.pdf

Perhaps Theresa May would have had a better team around her.

It's not gender which matters but ability.
It may just be a coincidence that women lead some countries which have had a lower number of cases than others. For instance, Australia has a male PM but relatively few cases so far.

There are very many factors to take into consideration.

Let’s broaden our perspective. What if countries led by women are managing the pandemic more effectively not because they are women, but because the election of women is a reflection of societies where there is a greater presence of women in many positions of power, in all sectors?

Keep your hair on Hetty and yes, there are times when a woman does a better job.

Can you think about that instead of going over the ground that has been ploughed over so often already. I do agree with your views (very much so) but that wasn’t the point I was making.

I would be interested to read where the government was sending patients who were due for release back into care homes Hetty, do you have a link?
it’s usually the hospital who will decide that a patient is able to be released back into their care homes, did the Government actually deny giving them tests, or did the hospitals not consider it necessary ?
I haven’t seen any factual evidence that the Hospitals were told not to test before a Patients release, but if you point me in the right direction I would be interested to read it

Well said Hetty58!

Why her (of all people)? Just because she's female? There are good and bad leaders, surely, regardless of gender.

Furret, the 'old folks in homes' weren't forgotten, rather, they were disregarded, sacrificed even, as NHS beds were cleared.

The government decided that no testing was needed to send old people from hospitals into homes. They knew exactly what they were doing - and what would happen - it was deliberate - and unforgivable!

Leadership? That’s my point - surely TM wouldn’t have bungled it like Boris has.

Not sure who the leader is in Japan but their figures seem amazing given no perceivable lockdown, high density and population! Any explanations?