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AIBU No going back to school I’m furious.

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12rg12ja Wed 10-Jun-20 11:59:03

What is the matter with everyone why can’t children who are at very little risk of coronavirus not go back to school.
Surely it would be better for everyone those that don’t want to be in contact can self isolate. I am fortunate that my grandson is in yr 6 so has gone back but I feel desperate for all the others and those parents who can’t work with no childcare. I feel we are bringing up a generation who will be scared of everything Sorry for the rant but don’t think I’ve ever felt so strongly about anything Show me a March and I’ll be there!

Callistemon Mon 15-Jun-20 10:15:01

You can't teach wearing a mask.

mokryna Mon 15-Jun-20 10:26:35

They are managing somehow.

Ellianne Mon 15-Jun-20 10:38:26

Why can't you teach wearing a mask? What about if you wear a Hijab?
You only need the mask when you are leaning over the child at less than 2 metres. Everyone can hear from that distance. If you are lecturing the class from your desk or at the board then there is a 2 metre tape around you, so no need for the mask.

Ellianne Mon 15-Jun-20 10:39:50

Hijabs in the UK, pas en France.

Callistemon Mon 15-Jun-20 10:42:33

Why can't you teach wearing a mask?

I would have thought that was self-evident.

Callistemon Mon 15-Jun-20 10:43:59

Hijabs do not cover the face.

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 10:52:24

When was the last time you were in a classroom Ellianne? Teachers don't just lecture from the front, especially in primary schools and with special needs children of all ages.

Hijabs only cover hair, not the face.

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 10:54:31

In any case, it is still impossible to fit more than about 15 children in most classrooms with social distancing. Nobody, not even our resident "expert" on health and safety, has come up with a solution as to how classroom space and number of staff are doubled without any resources.

mokryna Mon 15-Jun-20 10:57:47

Nothing will be perfect until a treatment is found. Things are being done the best they can under the circumstances.
Some of the teachers with the young children are using transparent face shields.
Do you except teachers not to have protection against this deadly virus?

mokryna Mon 15-Jun-20 10:59:23

sorry expect

Ellianne Mon 15-Jun-20 11:01:53

Teaching with a mask.

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 11:04:56

They've been told not to wear face shields mokryna.

What the government needs to do is get the transmission rate right down in the community. It's going to be difficult to do that now it's let the genie out of the bottle.

If it had actually planned a long-term response, we could now have a low transmission rate and it would be extremely safe for schools to return. The fact is that it didn't plan. Schools weren't high on the agenda and it seems to rely on people "blaming" those dreadful unions and teachers.

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 11:05:52

Where's that *Elllianne? Those children aren't reception or Year 1.

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 11:06:43

It doesn't look like a British classroom to me either. Teachers in the UK have been told not to wear a mask!

Callistemon Mon 15-Jun-20 11:06:43

The idea of wearing a mask is to protect other people from the virus if you are carrying it. So unless everyone, pupils and staff, wear them there is no point.

Callistemon Mon 15-Jun-20 11:09:35

DD is back to college and is not wearing a mask to teach - she says it would be impossible.
Other DD is back as well and has several younger children whose first language is not English. They need the teacher to speak distinctly.
Not in the UK, that is why they are back and back to normal.

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 11:09:50

Aa reverse image search shows that picture is a stock Associated Press photo. It's very probably not an actual class in progress.

mokryna Mon 15-Jun-20 11:14:26

At the moment my school is giving shields as the teachers requested it.

mokryna Mon 15-Jun-20 11:15:55

The face masks given by the school are of the type that protect the person who is wearing it.

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 11:19:32

The people at most danger in schools are probably the teaching assistants, who work closely with younger and special needs children. Sometimes those children need physical contact, either to reassure them or restrain them.

You can't put up a perspex screen between a TA and a child.

In my experience, many teaching assistants are middle-aged and some have health conditions, which is why some have left other better-paid jobs (some teaching assistants are actually qualified teachers).

I doubt if there will be any special arrangements for staff in known high risk groups. Without them, some staff will get seriously ill and, sadly, some will die. Some pupils will also take infection back to their families.

I wish people would get real and stop coming out with the mantra that schools must go back. Yes, everybody knows that, which is why the government needs to recognise the risks and provide funding for reduction of risk. It's been the same story right from the beginning - take it on the chin, shake hands with COVID-19 sufferers, positive British attitude will get us through. Absolute b****!

growstuff Mon 15-Jun-20 11:20:12

Is it a UK state school mokryna?

Froglady Mon 15-Jun-20 11:27:34

Not everywhere in the country is the same when it comes to the virus - whereas it might be 'safe' to send children back to school in some areas, it's not in others.

mokryna Mon 15-Jun-20 11:44:35

No French. The French government have also change the distance rule to one meter.
Due to health reasons I am not back . My school have been very good to me, I am on full pay and want me back in September but if there is no treatment announced by the end of this week I feel I will have to retire. However, at the moment I am still sending in worksheets which may I add take more time to prepare than being in class.

Ellianne Mon 15-Jun-20 11:47:39

Why all the obstacles?
Why can't we adopt some of these measures here and get on with things.

Galaxy Mon 15-Jun-20 12:19:02

Because the government have told us not to.