AIBU No going back to school I’m furious.

vegansrock

You wonder why people want children to go to school when schools/ teachers are so useless.
You also wonder why there is a teacher shortage when teaching is such a doddle.

Thank you Vegan. I did a couple of other jobs before becoming a teacher. Teaching is so much harder than the others, by a VERY long way.

I love it though.

Can we as well credit parents with the intelligence to know that if everyone in their place of work can't fit in because of social distancing it is fairly obvious that all the children in their school can't safely be accommodated. Also that many parents particularly of primary school children are well informed about how learning usually happens, and don't see in a child sitting in one place with no equipment the best environment for their child.
Grandad1943 thinking teachers have no imagination really takes the biscuit. Creative thinking is not only part of every day teaching it underpins every aspect including discipline, because children are great innovators and if you want to stay one step ahead of them you need imagination and forethought.

These girls and boy are back to school. Are they keeping an appropriate social distance?

GagaJo, in regard to your post @08:34 today, you state in that post.

Quote[ Teachers have ZERO say in how schools are run.]End Quote.

In the above GagaJo I believe you should state that "teachers ACCEPT they have zero say in how schools are run. There is a large difference between the two above statements.

You also state GagaJo in that post,

Quote [I wouldn't wish the fear I'm feeling at the moment about developing C19 from contact with a student who has tested positive on anyone.] End Quote.

Do you not believe GagaJo that all who work in hospitals, food manufacturing, distribution centres and refuge collection etc do not have those same fears. However, they carry on in collaboration with others to ensure their workplaces remain fully operational to the essential benefit of all no matter where they reside.

Others in what should be an essential service hide behind those who cannot place active input into that service that so effects their own and their children lives. In that those attempting to create that false shield ensure that their workplaces remain far from fully operational to the severe detriment of all who reside in the United Kingdom.

Anyway, I am once again to the office to see if we can assist further in bringing the workplaces of others back into safe full operation.

Callistemon...love it

Trisher. “ Grandad1943 thinking teachers have no imagination really takes the biscuit. Creative thinking is not only part of every day teaching it underpins every aspect including discipline, because children are great innovators and if you want to stay one step ahead of them you need imagination and forethought.”

Thank you. So true,

Castillemon Is the Cummings kid playing truant from that class?

We're hoping he's in 4R
(the Remove)

Sorry, she!
Dominique

She'd better sit near the front to test her eyesight!

They look like a lively bunch. Entitlement written all over them!

I shall hand you this pint glass, and tell you to pour in this quart of Newcastle Brown without spilling a drop. No, you can't drink the first pint before you pour in the second half!

You must be very careful with this drink, it is so valuable. It represents our future as a brewery of excellence - and also, if even a drop spills out, the whole quart will be taken away from you and only returned after all of it and everyone who has had contact with it has been kept in quaranting for 14 days. So once you begin to pour, you must make absolutely sure that every drop stays in the pint glass. All glasses, and all floors, furniture and equipment must be either disposable or disinfected between uses. This will involve more cleaning staff. Sorry, no extra money available to pay them.

It has to be poured ALL AT ONCE, and you can't have an extra glass to use. There are no more glasses in the cupboard and I have no intention of giving you extra money to go out to buy new ones.

What did you say? Borrow one from next door? Their turnover has dropped right down and they need all the income they can get, so they won't hire one out to you unless they are paid for it. Sorry, no extra money available for hiring or maintaining more premises.

You may find that your existing equipment is not adequate for storing and processing Newcastle Brown in multiple containers. Sorry, there is no official help available for that problem. No extra money either.

You will have double the number of full glasses to guard, so you will also need twice as many staff to do so. When using spaces at some distance from the main premises, one member of staff must have a "chaperone", so that there is someone at hand to take over guarding duties in case of accident or illness. They must all, of course, be fully trained do do so and their personal character checked by the appropriate authorities. There will be delays in doing this as thousands of appplications will have to processed, so please start recruitment on 1st January 2020. Yes, that is 2020, not 2019. By the way, there is no extra money to pay the extra staff either.

This is an order! and we'll have no excuses for any failures!

It's a conundrum.

But I expect that someone will have the answer.
Although the price may not be right.

However, in the end the cost will be huge.

Great post Elegran

Three recent, great posts,. Thank you Elegran and trisha.
I too picked up on that comment by grandad1943.

2007 - My last interview for a Deputy post (large city primary school in a deprived area) I had to give a presentation: title Creativity. Got the job. I'd had 10 years experience of working with staff to make creativity part of our school ethos. It's not just through arts, music and technology either.

Totally agree with GagaJo. I went into teaching at 36 (after 4 years doing B.Ed,Hons degree). Most stressful, tiring job I ever had (4 others before teaching). However, the most rewarding job.

Callistemon ?

Woodmouse49, I have this week, had a student who is barely literature write THREE pages about his journey to school. AND join in with the high achievers in the classroom in a lesson. And tell me he was so glad I was back at school (I've been shielding up to now) because now he could do well.

All of which brought tears to my eyes and yet again, reinforced why I love my job.

And that , Gagajo is why teachers are so incensed at being told by someone with no knowledge whatsoever of teaching children (as opposed to lecturing adults - a completely different ball-game) that they are making excuses.

Re HSE lobbying the Government about the clash between abiding by their rules and opening all schools to all pupils - that is what the teaching unions have tried to do - only to be accused of making political capital out of the emergency!

Galaxy

Will people stop encouraging grandad to work in a school

Actually, will people ( Gaga) stop encouraging the over 70’s
To work in a school ......it’s a crazy notion at the moment.

I was a teacher, I loved my job. My experience, nearly thirty years teaching, suggests that teachers are dedicated and hard working people, who have a love of helping children to learn.
Perhaps grandad should visit a school, when this is all over. He simply cannot go on comparing lorry drivers and office staff to teachers and children. However, as he shows by his posts that he knows nothing about modern schools and how they operate, I will choose to ignore his suggestions.

Thanks Elegran, Trisha, maddyone, Callistemon, Gaga, galaxy and anyone I missed out from this very quick catch up. You all either have experience of teaching, working with children and understand the real issues around our children returning to school.
Grandad please stick to your own area of specialism, honestly you're adding nothing to this discussion that is helpful or positive

A school in Manchester, thinking outside the classroom.

I read an interesting report today ...... ventilation is good, air conditioning is very bad as it transmits particles.
Time to use every available outside space.

GagaJo

Woodmouse49, I have this week, had a student who is barely literature write THREE pages about his journey to school. AND join in with the high achievers in the classroom in a lesson. And tell me he was so glad I was back at school (I've been shielding up to now) because now he could do well.

All of which brought tears to my eyes and yet again, reinforced why I love my job.

This rang so many bells.
Sorry to be anecdotal but I had a low set year 9 group for a foreign language subject. One day I wrote a sentence on board which effectively said “tomorrow I went into town”. I asked them if anything was wrong with it. “Yes miss” said one boy, “it’s in the wrong tense”
Yesssssssss!!

Please don’t think that was meant to be earth shattering but it was a breakthrough moment I had worked hard for.

That is a nice structure, Ellianne Wouldn't mind a smaller version of that for my patio.

How many did they buy? Enough to have half the school under cover? Are there any sides to keep out horizontal rain?