AIBU No going back to school I’m furious.

Oopsminty interesting comparison between your 2 family teachers in different parts of the country. Good to see several schools are accommodating additional year groups.
I'm concerned people don't think there is any point in returning to school or that it isn't worth the effort now. On the contrary there are five weeks left of the summer term. Pupils need to return to re establish a routine, to consolidate past learning and to plan for their future education, but most importantly to re engage with their teachers and to socialise with their peers. 25 days just grabbing every opportunity has to be worth it.

Callistemon

These girls and boy are back to school. Are they keeping an appropriate social distance?

Priti Patel is rather gorgeous, Callistemon

How shallow of me!

Back to the topic in hand

My daughter is a Year 1 teacher down south.

My daughter in law teaches Reception up north

Daughter has been working for a couple of weeks now. Her school seems to have been able to get Reception, Y1 and Y6 back

Year 5 are returning next week

The vast majority of teachers and TA's have returned

My DIL is at a small primary school up north. They have tried to get classes back but only 7 children have turned up. That's 7 in the whole school

My Y6 grandson is also up north and has been unable to return due to 'the council' My daughter isn't sure what's going on but has had regular phone calls from her son's teacher who has been hoping for a return to school ASAP. But it's not looking likely now.

There are so many reasons why getting schools up and running again is easier said than done.

And we're reaching the point where it doesn't seem worth it.

Work colleague has a child in Reception. He won't be going back. She doesn't think there's any point. Her choice.

So it's unfair to berate the teachers when much of this is out of their hands.

That is a nice structure, Ellianne Wouldn't mind a smaller version of that for my patio.

How many did they buy? Enough to have half the school under cover? Are there any sides to keep out horizontal rain?

Please don’t think that was meant to be earth shattering but it was a breakthrough moment I had worked hard for.

GagaJo

Woodmouse49, I have this week, had a student who is barely literature write THREE pages about his journey to school. AND join in with the high achievers in the classroom in a lesson. And tell me he was so glad I was back at school (I've been shielding up to now) because now he could do well.

All of which brought tears to my eyes and yet again, reinforced why I love my job.

This rang so many bells.
Sorry to be anecdotal but I had a low set year 9 group for a foreign language subject. One day I wrote a sentence on board which effectively said “tomorrow I went into town”. I asked them if anything was wrong with it. “Yes miss” said one boy, “it’s in the wrong tense”
Yesssssssss!!

A school in Manchester, thinking outside the classroom.

I read an interesting report today ...... ventilation is good, air conditioning is very bad as it transmits particles.
Time to use every available outside space.

Thanks Elegran, Trisha, maddyone, Callistemon, Gaga, galaxy and anyone I missed out from this very quick catch up. You all either have experience of teaching, working with children and understand the real issues around our children returning to school.
Grandad please stick to your own area of specialism, honestly you're adding nothing to this discussion that is helpful or positive

I was a teacher, I loved my job. My experience, nearly thirty years teaching, suggests that teachers are dedicated and hard working people, who have a love of helping children to learn.
Perhaps grandad should visit a school, when this is all over. He simply cannot go on comparing lorry drivers and office staff to teachers and children. However, as he shows by his posts that he knows nothing about modern schools and how they operate, I will choose to ignore his suggestions.

Galaxy

Will people stop encouraging grandad to work in a school

Actually, will people ( Gaga) stop encouraging the over 70’s
To work in a school ......it’s a crazy notion at the moment.

Re HSE lobbying the Government about the clash between abiding by their rules and opening all schools to all pupils - that is what the teaching unions have tried to do - only to be accused of making political capital out of the emergency!

And that , Gagajo is why teachers are so incensed at being told by someone with no knowledge whatsoever of teaching children (as opposed to lecturing adults - a completely different ball-game) that they are making excuses.

Woodmouse49, I have this week, had a student who is barely literature write THREE pages about his journey to school. AND join in with the high achievers in the classroom in a lesson. And tell me he was so glad I was back at school (I've been shielding up to now) because now he could do well.

All of which brought tears to my eyes and yet again, reinforced why I love my job.

Three recent, great posts,. Thank you Elegran and trisha.
I too picked up on that comment by grandad1943.

2007 - My last interview for a Deputy post (large city primary school in a deprived area) I had to give a presentation: title Creativity. Got the job. I'd had 10 years experience of working with staff to make creativity part of our school ethos. It's not just through arts, music and technology either.

Totally agree with GagaJo. I went into teaching at 36 (after 4 years doing B.Ed,Hons degree). Most stressful, tiring job I ever had (4 others before teaching). However, the most rewarding job.

Callistemon ?

Great post Elegran

It's a conundrum.

But I expect that someone will have the answer.
Although the price may not be right.

However, in the end the cost will be huge.

I shall hand you this pint glass, and tell you to pour in this quart of Newcastle Brown without spilling a drop. No, you can't drink the first pint before you pour in the second half!

You must be very careful with this drink, it is so valuable. It represents our future as a brewery of excellence - and also, if even a drop spills out, the whole quart will be taken away from you and only returned after all of it and everyone who has had contact with it has been kept in quaranting for 14 days. So once you begin to pour, you must make absolutely sure that every drop stays in the pint glass. All glasses, and all floors, furniture and equipment must be either disposable or disinfected between uses. This will involve more cleaning staff. Sorry, no extra money available to pay them.

It has to be poured ALL AT ONCE, and you can't have an extra glass to use. There are no more glasses in the cupboard and I have no intention of giving you extra money to go out to buy new ones.

What did you say? Borrow one from next door? Their turnover has dropped right down and they need all the income they can get, so they won't hire one out to you unless they are paid for it. Sorry, no extra money available for hiring or maintaining more premises.

You may find that your existing equipment is not adequate for storing and processing Newcastle Brown in multiple containers. Sorry, there is no official help available for that problem. No extra money either.

You will have double the number of full glasses to guard, so you will also need twice as many staff to do so. When using spaces at some distance from the main premises, one member of staff must have a "chaperone", so that there is someone at hand to take over guarding duties in case of accident or illness. They must all, of course, be fully trained do do so and their personal character checked by the appropriate authorities. There will be delays in doing this as thousands of appplications will have to processed, so please start recruitment on 1st January 2020. Yes, that is 2020, not 2019. By the way, there is no extra money to pay the extra staff either.

This is an order! and we'll have no excuses for any failures!

They look like a lively bunch. Entitlement written all over them!

She'd better sit near the front to test her eyesight!

Sorry, she!
Dominique

We're hoping he's in 4R
(the Remove)

Castillemon Is the Cummings kid playing truant from that class?

Trisher. “ Grandad1943 thinking teachers have no imagination really takes the biscuit. Creative thinking is not only part of every day teaching it underpins every aspect including discipline, because children are great innovators and if you want to stay one step ahead of them you need imagination and forethought.”

Thank you. So true,

Callistemon...love it

GagaJo, in regard to your post @08:34 today, you state in that post.

Quote[ Teachers have ZERO say in how schools are run.]End Quote.

In the above GagaJo I believe you should state that "teachers ACCEPT they have zero say in how schools are run. There is a large difference between the two above statements.

You also state GagaJo in that post,

Quote [I wouldn't wish the fear I'm feeling at the moment about developing C19 from contact with a student who has tested positive on anyone.] End Quote.

Do you not believe GagaJo that all who work in hospitals, food manufacturing, distribution centres and refuge collection etc do not have those same fears. However, they carry on in collaboration with others to ensure their workplaces remain fully operational to the essential benefit of all no matter where they reside.

Others in what should be an essential service hide behind those who cannot place active input into that service that so effects their own and their children lives. In that those attempting to create that false shield ensure that their workplaces remain far from fully operational to the severe detriment of all who reside in the United Kingdom.

Anyway, I am once again to the office to see if we can assist further in bringing the workplaces of others back into safe full operation.

These girls and boy are back to school. Are they keeping an appropriate social distance?