Anger at rule breakers.

The thing is, it's easy to say disregard those who break the rules and just to keep oneself safe, but the disregarders will force those of us who are shielding to be isolated for even longer if there's an upsurge in infections.

My nextdoor neighbours not only had friends round last weekend having a raucous get-together but, judging by the cars parked outside, several of them stayed the whole weekend and at least one other couple stayed the whole week.

This behaviour is very upsetting and frustrating for those of us - like me - who haven't seen grandchildren and DD since Christmas, and have only seen DS twice in a socially distanced garden visit..... in which we couldn't hear ourselves speak because of the neighbours' drunken racket from nextdoor.

The Chief Nursing Officer for England has been dropped from daily briefings for refusing to back Dominic Cummings

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/12/chief-nurse-dropped-from-no-10-briefing-for-not-backing-cummings

You make a good point quizqueen

An elderly friend of mind told me that her mobile hairdresser had visited. I couldn't quite believe what I was hearing.

I blame the mobile hairdresser as my friend is very elderly and frail and I genuinely think she believed her hairdresser when she was told "oh yes, mobile hairdressers can visit".

If I wished to do so, I imagine I could make trouble for the hairdresser but I would also land my friend in it.

Also, I am not 100% sure that it wouldn't count as care for the vulnerable. I suspect it would not count as this.

I have had my eyes opened by some of my neighbours who have flouted the rules since day 1 of the lockdown.

I am very unimpressed by their behaviour but I know there are many like them. Nothing I can do to change them but I do understand why people who are abiding by the rules get so frustrated by their blatant disregard for others.

I guess I’ll get turned down for the nunnery then.

I doubt many of us would want Dominic Cummings or his wife as friends.

Just do the best you can and keep your distance from these people that disregard the rules. Do you really want them as friends.

I agree with you there Quizqueen, Wishing people unwell with Corona virus,or anything else is shocking.

I'd say they come out about the same.

What is the worst kind of example of human nature? People flouting the rules a bit or people who hope others get ill by doing so!!

I know it's annoying but getting angry just affects your mood and can be detrimental to you, and those living with you.

I have friends who just do their own thing, they are generally risk takers in normal life, and I know I there is no point in trying to change them.

I do think the risks from meeting up outside have been shown to be extremely low, particularly if distancing.

For myself I am not convinced that the infection rate is yet low enough to cause people to be so blasé and hope that careless behaviour doesn't promote a new surge. Time will tell. Perhaps another 3 or 4 weeks?

I don’t get angry with rule breakers but a nasty bit of me hopes they get ill.
Sadly I’m sure there will be thousands flocking to protests of one kind or another this weekend.

She has done nothing wrong !

As your grandchildren can. Now visit your home and some have to help out with care of them , everyone in different situations and shouldn’t be judged for what they decide to do to help as some have no choice but to help with their grandchildren
If in the garden what else can you do when it’s raining !!

We can now go out when we want and shops / zoos etc open monday so will get worse with everyone out and about , more cars on the road too , back at work too ...but as long as we are keeping 2 m rules and follow instructions when out that’s the main thing

It’s very difficult in different situations, if my daughter doesn’t go to work she’ll lose her job and I normally help after school and one day a week . I have no choice but to help for odd occasions in the week , but we are careful when they are here . She has no one else to ask only her mum

wheniwas, I often get in my car too. I drive to a nearish country park where I can walk in safety. I do this for exercise and just to get out. I have never walked close to,anyone else and the area I walk in is wide and open so it’s easy to avoid anyone who might be passing. Maybe this is what your neighbour is doing, or perhaps she’s visiting family in their gardens. I’m glad you no longer feel cross as there can be lots of reasons for someone driving without their actually flouting the rules and endangering other people.

I agree that SueDonim has got it right - we can only protect ourselves. If others flout the rules, as my dear old mum used to say, " it's their look" out if they become ill, not that we wish it on anyone.

TenaciousB, I know how you feel, but I think that SueDonim's advice is good. I was getting cross about my neighbour going out constantly in her car (she is retired, and I have no idea what she is doing) and then I decided that I would just assume that she is delivering food parcels Since then, I have felt relaxed when I see her setting off again.

All our DGC are at least 150 miles away and for various reasons we are not driving, so it may be ages until we can see any of them safely again. Hey ho - and thank goodness for modern technology!

All those hundreds of people -who happen not to have written the rules.

Not only Cummings, Luckygirl, what about the hundreds who descended on beaches and in parks the other week ? He was only one who was only slated because of his position.

All we can do is to take responsibility for ourselves. Pointless letting anger getting the better of you. The rules grow ever more confusing and the vast majority of people have been abiding by them. While there's no simple answer all you can do is to take care of your own health.

My friend travelled over 200 miles to her sons I wasn't impressed at all. She said it was special circumstances it wasn't people are breaking the rules to suit themselves. I didn't say anything because she has been a good friend for over thirty years. My brother came over to visit me last week we are close. He lives in Wallasey but was working near me in Liverpool so dropped in for tea in the garden. I wasn't happy when he said three peopIe his wife works with have covid. I would have preferred after hearing this he hadn't visited. It's very difficult times for everyone but try to occupy your mind to stop the anger eating you up.

We can only keep ourselves safe and follow the advice from Frozen and 'let it gooooo'.
Like everyone I know who has been blessed with grandchildren, missing them is the hardest part of all this. The only rule breaking we have done, is to see them from a good distance, over a garden wall. And then, only when eg dropping off a lock down birthday gift or lending an essential item, (lawn mower the most recent)
The R rate is continuing to drop, despite the mixing of some groups over VE Day. The next couple of weeks after the demonstrations in London particularly but most major cities, will be worth a watch.
keep calm and carry on is good advice in any crisis. (imo)