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Thousands on the beach yesterday - Wednesday

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Nanof3 Thu 25-Jun-20 13:12:41

Have just seen pictures in the paper of the thousands of people on the beaches on the south coast yesterday, and there are 30 mile tailbacks on the roads going south again today.
We are hoping to go out and about after next weekend but what is the use of us obeying the rules only to face another potential lockdown due these irresponsible idiots. I feel very angry and frustrated.

Callistemon Fri 26-Jun-20 08:01:11

tidyskatemum

So the 33 tons of litter cleared from the Bournemouth coast from yesterday was a figment of the imagination, was it? And is the major incident declared today an overreaction? I think not.

Quite, tidyskatemum
Apparently, the estimate was half a million people headed for Bournemouth yesterday.

I cannot believe anyone is making excuses for these people.
Perhaps the furlough scheme should be ended; if people can sit in traffic jams to travel to overcrowded resorts (and the problem was not so much sitting on the beach but walking around elsewhere) then they should be perfectly able to go back to work.

Perhaps only shielded people should be furloughed now.

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jun-20 07:52:12

Littering is disgusting, depressing and expensive to clear. The gig-lovers at Glastonbury (and other venues) always leave a right mess! It’s dangerous on beaches, especially when some fools drink from glass beer bottles.

Willow10 Fri 26-Jun-20 07:26:43

Would these be the same hypocrites who were out clapping for the NHS a few weeks ago?

Now that they've learned how to wash their hands, maybe they could be taught to dispose of their own rubbish properly.

Urmstongran Fri 26-Jun-20 07:20:41

Ah, good job we’re all different twiglet - I love the beach! Nothing nicer than relaxing, feet up, on a sun bed that has a bit fat cushion with my beach towel on it. Yes it’s hot, but with sunscreen on, under a huge parasol put my head and shoulders in the shade. A gentle sea breeze as it’s cooler on the coast in hot weather completes my comfort and enjoyment! A bottle of water on a side table next to me keeps me hydrated. My Kindle or iPod (with earbuds natch) provide my entertainment and a swim in the sea is delightful.

As we leave the beach we make sure no-one could tell we’ve spent the day there. No litter left behind!

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Calendargirl Fri 26-Jun-20 06:56:18

Yes, I can well imagine that many children on the beaches were not sent to school because it wouldn’t be safe.

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Evie64 Fri 26-Jun-20 00:57:55

We live in Devon, the onslaught of grockles has already begun! Whilst it's good for our economy, I just hope there isn't a second spike as a result, but methinks it's inevitable........

Sussexborn Fri 26-Jun-20 00:07:10

Looks horrendous. How would you find a child if they wandered off?

merlotgran Fri 26-Jun-20 00:00:59

Our eldest grandson is furloughed and lives ten minutes from a beach but the only time he goes there is for his dog's early morning walk when there's nobody there.

I can't see the appeal either, twiglet.

twiglet77 Thu 25-Jun-20 23:51:11

I agree too, Gilly. It's going to be a shock for some of these people when they have to go back to work (I work in a supermarket so have worked throughout, both my daughters have office jobs and have been working from home, one with a small child at home since nursery closed).

But I don't understand the attraction of beaches in summer. People, for one thing, I definitely don't want to sit anywhere near other people, and that's nothing to do with any virus. I don't think of nice leisure time as time spent having to hear other people talking, shouting, whooping, getting louder as they drink their supermarket booze, I don't want to have kids I don't know shrieking a few feet away from me. There's no shade, sand is scorching hot, kids can be carried when their feet burn on the sand but the poor dogs dragged out for a 'lovely' day on the beach with the family will have blistered paws and nobody carrying them. Sand gets in everything you eat and everything you're wearing. The loos will be closed and our population is hopelessly incapable of understanding what litter bins are for. People are revolting. Sea water is revolting really, seaweed between your toes and sharp shells pricking your feet. No, give me an empty beach in winter, wrapped up well and with wellies on, then the kids (and grandkids) and dogs can have a whale of a time. In summer, I'll stay in my large and quiet garden, under a tree if it's too hot in the sun, perfect peace, no driving - and a clean loo when I need it!!

gillybob Thu 25-Jun-20 23:45:25

I feel for you pinkquartz I really do. But sadly there are some very selfish , hypocritical people in this country .

Leaving all their rubbish behind is the pits of the Earth and just goes to show their mentality .

pinkquartz Thu 25-Jun-20 23:42:05

Apparently there was plenty of shit left in peoples gardens
Not to mention the 30 odd TONS of rubbish collected when those lovely visitors finally left

How shameful can these people be? how many refuse to send their kids back to school cos it's not safe?

I won't be able to leave my home for a very long time thanks to this behaviour and I have been shut in since New Years ........
But as a vulnerable adult it's is too great a risk.

merlotgran Thu 25-Jun-20 23:39:27

I agree, gilly

gillybob Thu 25-Jun-20 23:36:58

Well there’s something terribly wrong Merlot when much poorer parts of the country are propping them up and allowing them to have what is effectively a 4 month plus paid holiday .

I fear the proverbial sh*t will hit the fan soon though. .

suziewoozie Thu 25-Jun-20 23:33:18

9.1 million furloughed gilly

merlotgran Thu 25-Jun-20 23:30:44

I'm afraid a lot of them are, gilly.

Furlough on sea!

gillybob Thu 25-Jun-20 23:24:59

Oops meant to add . Surely all these people in and around Bournemouth can’t be being paid by the government? can they ?

gillybob Thu 25-Jun-20 23:22:32

Well I am happy to report that “my” stretch of beach on the NE coast was beautiful when I arrived today and just as beautifully unspoiled when I left . A few family groups but all staying well apart . No litter left at all. Well done the North East of England. ?

merlotgran Thu 25-Jun-20 23:04:07

I saw on the evening News that there was the usual idiot declaring there were far too many people on the beach not social distancing.

It clearly didn't dawn on him that he was one of them.

ginny Thu 25-Jun-20 22:47:06

Surely many of these people on the beaches etc. are furloughed . Not safe to go to work where all sorts of h & s would be in place but safe to mix with unknown thousands. Doesn’t make sense to me. I bet there are a lot of people who have worked all though the last few months are more than a little miffed!

Chardy Thu 25-Jun-20 22:07:00

Am on south coast with all loos open

Grany Thu 25-Jun-20 20:20:51

People must think it's safe now to congregate out and about

Walk at a steady pace towards machine guns urges Johnson as 65,000 die

Forget Churchill writes Andy Stowe. The wartime leader Boris Johnson most resembles is General Sir Anthony Cecil Hogmanay Melchett, the blustering incompetent First World War commander in the TV series Blackadder which was popular when Johnson was a teenager.

Long before Johnson was talking about “wiffle waffle” and “spaffing” the cretinously posh, incompetent Melchett was encouraging the troops to go to deaths with uplifting gibberish like “tally-ho, yippety dip and zing zang spillip”. Translate his observation ‘if nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through’ into dog Latin and it could be Johnson’s family motto.

On the day after another 171 people died from coronavirus, Johnson announced such a significant easing of the lockdown as to render it meaningless. People are being invited to assess their own level of risk, meaning that those who feel themselves to be safe will engage in more contact with others guaranteeing that the epidemic spreads because it becomes impossible for people at high risk to avoid the virus.

The presidents of the Royal Colleges of Surgeons, Nursing, Physicians, and GPs have signed a joint letter to Johnson and other political leaders saying that there is a strong chance of still more lives being thrown away as a second wave of the virus happening and the infrastructure to deal with it still isn’t in place.

Channelling Melchett, he told the House of Commons “our long national hibernation is coming to an end”. A few hours later his chief scientific officer announced that the disease is becoming more widespread globally.

From July 4th, pubs in England will be able to re-open in a “covid-secure way”. Drinkers will be asked to give their names but won’t ask be required to show identification. As the Daily Telegraph cartoonist quipped, “If Mickey Mouse catches coronavirus we’ll have to tell Lord Lucan, Adolf Hitler and Marilyn Monroe”. There will be no standing at the bar but punters will need to wash their hands more. Anyone who has ever been in the men’s toilet of an English, Scottish or Welsh pub at 10.30 on a Saturday night will know that drinkers washing their hands is about as common as a free round of drinks from the landlord.

Public transport users will be expected to wear masks on buses and trains and to stay one metre away from each other. As more people are forced back to work this will become unsustainable. London double decker buses have a limit of twenty passengers at the moment. When children return to school it will be impossible for them to get to lessons with these restrictions and this will break down quickly.

Confusing and incoherent

You will be allowed to have guests from one other household inside your home. You are supposed to stay two metres apart from them, so you won’t be pouring their drinks. You can meet as many households as you want. Just not all at once. Presumably you can have them in two-hour slots with a gap so you can disinfect the sofa and door handles.

Or as Johnson so clearly said:

“Where it is possible to keep 2 metres apart people should. But where it is not, we will advise people to keep a social distance of ‘one metre plus’, meaning they should remain one metre apart, while taking mitigations to reduce the risk of transmission.”

None of this has the force of law. It’s just guidance in much the same way that your doctor might advise you not to have a kebab and ten pints too often.

It’s confusing and incoherent. Worse than that, it flies in the face of scientific and medical advice. The Financial Times reports:

“Chris Whitty, chief medical officer, this month said the two-metre rule was “going to carry on really for as long as this epidemic continues”. David King, the government’s former chief scientific adviser, warned that it was not yet safe to relax social-distancing rules indoors. Sir David, who has set up an alternative to the government’s Scientific Advisory Group on Emergencies, said ministers had sidelined advice from their own body. “That quite clearly says it is soon to reduce the distance from two metres to one metre”.

This is unambiguous, yet Johnson offers nothing but an appeal to British exceptionalism burbling in his sub-Churchillian way that “we will continue to trust in the common sense and community spirit of the British people to follow this guidance, to carry us through and to see us to victory over this virus.”

Victory is some way off. There is no prospect of a vaccine this year; the number of cases globally has passed nine million; more than half of American states are seeing a rise in the number of cases; South Korea now has a second wave of infection; the Israeli state is considering a second lockdown and clusters of infection are being widely reported in British and German meat processing plants.

Johnson and his government are sitting atop a mountain of at least 65 000 corpses. Keir Starmer told him that he agrees with what the Tories are proposing to do. This is becoming his standard approach to everything they announce.

The Labour movement has to resist this mass murder by the Tories rather than going along with it. Workers who do not feel safe returning to their job should continue to be paid by the furlough scheme. All employers must have a responsibility to make sure that customers and workers are safe. Johnson is as complacent and irresponsible as Trump and Republicans like Texas governor Greg Abbott, people who are putting money in front of lives.

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sodapop Thu 25-Jun-20 20:07:24

The Dorset coast has been packed, the amount of litter collected was disgusting.

PamelaJ1 Thu 25-Jun-20 19:48:15

Our beach on Tuesday.
Lots of space at the moment.

JenniferEccles Thu 25-Jun-20 17:31:37

“Just got back from a swim “

Stop it!!?

BlueBelle Thu 25-Jun-20 17:26:28

Yes !! grannygravy exactly even our ice cream stall has white stencilled places to stand on the prom The toilets have all been refurbished and are clean and bright
we have a tractor clean the beach every morning And it always looks pristine
Just got back from a swim jenniferecckes sorry to rub it in but my little town is pretty dead shop wise so I have to be proud of something ?